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Not a great reflection for the EPL in the semi finals of the CL this week.
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That’s harsh DM Liverpool went to one of the very best teams in Europe and give them a tough game. 3-0 is totally misleading. A 3-2 would have been a better reflection. Spurs was a bad reflection tho.
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Double Maxim
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Fair enough I only watched the goals from the Barca game just went on the score line for my comment.
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Agreed but even Spurs are better than they showed. Injuries and a small squad is catching up with them now. Liverpool deserved more alright but didn't take the chances
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Arsenal v Valencia should be a good pointer to 2nd tier teams in respective countries...
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sid waddell
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In my view the balance is beginning to tip in favour of the Premier League and that will likely bear out next year. In terms of thinking on the game the top three in England have moved ahead. Individual brilliance can negate that in certain matches like last night's but in my view it's only a matter of time before systems based thinking overwhelms the top La Liga teams for at least a two to three year period in a similar manner to how German teams moved ahead for a time in 2012/13.
Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid have regressed. Barca are having one of those seasons like in 2015 where they suddenly click but they are heavily reliant on individual brilliance. The foundations for the dominance of La Liga are declining however. The quality of Spanish players coming through is not nearly as good now as it was 10-15 years ago. Liverpool, Manchester City and Tottenham will all be powerhouses in this competition again next year.
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Liverpool and City, yeah, but as Spurs have showed towards the end of this season, their squad is thin and they are overly reliant on a small number of players. Add to that the expense of the new stadium and I'm not sure that they can continue in their current form. Their value based approach is hard to keep up in the longer term; while they are a bigger club than Lyon or Porto, eventually a model based on ahead of the curve scouting and identifying undervalued players will run into trouble. It certainly cannot be continued indefinitely on a lower operating budget than the bigger clubs and, until such time as they have reduced the debt related to the stadium, they will be operating on a lower budget than the other five teams around them in England, not to mention the other European sides.
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Roberto Baggio
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Would I be right in saying that the coefficient of the English teams has risen this season?
All 4 made it to the quarter finals of the CL and 2 made the semi finals, and 2 are in the Europa League semi finals. The crème of La Liga is still proving to be the best in Europe (Barca should win the CL from here), but the EPL teams performances has definitely improved from where it was 4 or 5 years ago.
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sid waddell
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Didn't Tottenham just post a world record profit? Their squad is thin for sure, but they have a damn good team and system there and two or three decent squad signings this summer would go a long way towards adressing the depth problem. They could also possibly get a rake of money on transfers this summer if they decide to punt Eriksen, Kane or Trippier. Juan Foyth and Kyle Walker-Peters are good young players coming through in Trippier's position. A lot depends on whether Poch can be persuaded to make this a proper long term project rather than be lured away. As it is, three of the big six are on the right road, and three of them are pissing in the wind. Tottenham are one of the three who are on the right road.
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The fact that Poch has picked him at RB in a couple of games recently indicates that he may think him just that bit ahead of KWP, despite being 9 months younger than him. In particular, it may be more a question of temperament/confidence, possibly dating back to Spurs game at the Camp Nou, where KWP was robbed early on by Dembele for the opening goal, and generally looked shaky, before being subbed after an hour. Since then he has only started four games, all against lesser teams, three of them where Foyth also started (at CB)
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7 of the last 10 champions league finalists are from La Liga which is dominance.
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This meant that their top two or three clubs were also very competitive in Europe. By contrast, English football's strengths were more dissipated amongst more clubs (i.e. a Top Six, rather than a Big Two/Three), which meant it was as much as any club could do to compete domestically, never mind in Europe as well. Which is why eg, no club has retained the PL title in the last decade. There are signs that both these are changing, however, though it is gradual, and will never become completely reversed. Anyhow, if you were to compile a European Premier League of, say, 18 clubs, I daresay England would have more representatives than any other country, even if eg Barca or Juve were more likely to win it.
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sid waddell
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Ed Woodward He bought a load of AIB shares off me in February 2008 too
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Which follows speculation from Italy that Ancelotti wants him for Napoli: Which means Levy might just be able to set up an auction between the two, whilst avoiding having to sell him to Man U (i.e. PL rivals), who are also said to be keen: And notwithstanding that Trippier has been absolutely awful for Spurs this season, he was excellent for England in Russia in 2018, following a fine season with Spurs, which must be influencing potential suitors. Anyhow, he's 28 and under contract to 2022, so Levy is in a great position to sell.
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