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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Denis Irwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 12:19am
Jesus really hope Charles Kennedy gets the help he needs
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colemanY2K Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 12:19am
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Suppose it's too much to hope that one of those Labour loses is that odious f**k Jim Murphy

He only had a 1% lead in his constituency in the latest Lord Ashcroft poll. The SNP candidate is a 20 year firebrand called Mhairi Black who was on the bottom of the Nicola Sturgeon wrecking ball article. I'd be amazed if he lost but she's got a powerful grassroots campaign. http://twitter.com/mhairi1921


EDIT: I'm mistaken. She's actually up against Labours Douglas Alexander and his seat is in serious danger.


Edited by colemanY2K - 13 Mar 2015 at 12:25am
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote coyne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Mar 2015 at 12:19am
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Labour should make a coalition with Jeremy Clarkson and his 700,000 petition signatures LOL


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Miliband has ruled out a coalition witn the SNP
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Newryrep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 2015 at 3:46pm
Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Miliband has ruled out a coalition witn the SNP


Yeah a formal coalition ? Don't think the snp would enter one even if they were begged

A working 'arrangement' is a different matter all together
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Miliband has ruled out a coalition witn the SNP


Yeah a formal coalition ? Don't think the snp would enter one even if they were begged

A working 'arrangement' is a different matter all together



Yeah Sturgeon came out and said it fairly quickly.Both however didn't rule out an informal arrangement of supply and confidence (Similar to what Labour had under Callaghan in the 70's with the Liberals)
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It was a logical and most obvious thing to do given the ridiculous sniping going on from the other parties re a coalition.

Also makes it less likely for English swing voters to move away from Labour because of the perceived likelihood of a formal coalition with the snp.

Edited by colemanY2K - 16 Mar 2015 at 4:40pm
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Great and hilarious article from Mark Steele in the Independent

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/how-dare-anyone-ask-david-cameron-to-take-part-in-the-tv-debates--dont-they-know-who-he-is-10104861.html



My favourite bit

Quote I suppose you can see Cameron’s point of view, that it’s grossly unfair for someone to become Prime Minister when they haven’t won a majority, by doing some sort of a deal with another party. That’s why it must be especially horrifying to imagine the SNP having some sort of influence in parliament, when they’ve cheated by exploiting the “get more votes than the other parties” loophole.
Then the SNP plan to vote – that’s right VOTE – in a parliament they’ve been elected to, and which Cameron spent a year demanding they had to carry on being governed by. The cheating Scottish bastards. The next set of posters should make his point even clearer and say, “Vote Labour and wake up being dragged by horses to Arbroath by marauding Highlanders who lock you and your children in a dungeon while they stand above you laughing and eating raw squirrels.”


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Mark Steel is brilliant, his in town series was brilliant as were his books. Proper lefty and funny man. Big Palace fan too
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Mark Steel Clap Very funny fella.
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There was no chance the SNP would ever go into a coalition with Labour. There would be no point.The SNP don't want seats at the British cabinet or power for the sake of it in London.They want to get down there and get out again as soon as possible.
Nicola Sturgeon has played it very cleverly and stitched him up already by offering a way of keeping the Tories out through an informal arrangement. So really in the eyes of English voters he is no further on and if he wavers at all then the Labour voters in Scotland that are left will jump ship as well.
In the old days here it was arguments of left against right,now it is very clearly unionist against those who want independence. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote coyne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2015 at 12:43pm
George's final budget today and half of it reeks of getting votes in the election rather than thinking economy. Keeps mentioning employment but doesn't mention how many on welfare sanctions and/or zero-hour contracts, just pulling numbers out of his ass.

Tax duty on Spirits, pints and cigarettes(!) is expected and will get them extra votes


Edited by coyne - 18 Mar 2015 at 12:45pm
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I'm not one to Say I'm happy to live in Ireland but when it comes to the process of electing our politicians I really do pity the British and the fact that they voted against PR EmbarrassedEmbarrassed.
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Never had a chance to vote on PR, all that was offered was AV which is crap but better then the current system. Of course, like in the Scottish election the Tories and Labour banded together to make sure it was rejected.

I'm thinking of voting Green. It's a pity their leader is so poor on TV, they're losing votes because of her.
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Originally posted by Hoosay Hoosay wrote:

Never had a chance to vote on PR, all that was offered was AV which is crap but better then the current system. Of course, like in the Scottish election the Tories and Labour banded together to make sure it was rejected.

I'm thinking of voting Green. It's a pity their leader is so poor on TV, they're losing votes because of her.

Yes you're correct it was AV not PR I actually thought they we're similar enough but not the case, either way not real democracy in Britain and until its changed many segments of British society particularly the lower classes will continue to be under represented in Westminster.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pre Madonna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Mar 2015 at 2:59pm
Only the upper classes can claim representation at Westminster, look at the backgrounds of the Tory, Red Tory and Lib dem politicians and not many Tony Benn types, including his offspring
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Yep, it's ridiculous really. It's a voting system that only works in a two party system. With 5 parties in England looking like they'll get at least 5% of the vote (Con, Lab, LD, UKIP and Green) the first past the post system is completely undemocratic. A huge number of MPs will be elected with around 30%-35% of the vote.
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And then factor in turnout, 36% at the last locals, 65% at the last general. I would predict between 55% and 60% this time. Hardly a case for democracy!
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