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colemanY2K
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the tories have such a stranglehold on england that no matter how bad the tories screw up labour will not be able to amass enough seats to reach 326 in the next decade or two. the maths just don't add up. they would need to take back scotland which they won't, they need to win big in wales which they might and they need to take the red wall back which is gone forever. they may win a few seats back but it will likely be a patchwork. the tories are laughing. even if they have a disastrous election they know the electoral map is working against labour.
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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corkery
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People/newspapers have associated Labour with political correctness, anti Brexit and immigration.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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FrankosHereNow
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coyne
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I don't think it's baffling.
I mean like they fielded a remain candidate in the constituency of the HQ of the Brexit Party (Hartlepool) It's more common sense
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Saint Tom
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It shows up the complete fallacy that was their non policy on the defining issue of the era in in British politics (brexit).
This is the single biggest issue labour have with voters. They have no credibility because of this.
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
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coyne
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Alex Salmond conceding defeat that his party are getting nothing.
I guess they’ll be the Scottish equivalent to the Brexit Party from now where they’ll be a nuisance to the SNP and eventually start getting votes if they fail to get the job done
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 15254 |
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Said as much at the time - unforgivable
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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colemanY2K
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cracking result for the nationalists and greens
the outcome ensures they'll continue to be a pain in the hole for boris. all set up for a referendum in 2023/4.
Edited by colemanY2K - 08 May 2021 at 10:22pm |
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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coyne
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Andy Burnham's come and get me plea to the Labour party is very interesting.
Popular in the media, dubbed King of the North, popular within the Labour membership also, just won re-election as Mayor with 69% of the vote. Labour would have to change their rules as it's mandatory for a leadership role to be an MP, which he obviously no longer isn't, but he could pretty much grab any seat he wants in the North of England
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TigerRoll
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Unfortunately for Andy, it’ll make no odds who Labour install. The Tories will tell England for the years ahead, Vote Labour get Nicola Sturgeon. Nicola sturgeon is arguably the most hated person in England. On that point the SNP will lose a referendum if called in the immediate future. Not everyone who votes the SNP wants an independent Scotland. When it boils down too benefits and the NHS and a few other items being cut people change their minds quickly. Their main argument is they could rejoin the EU, a few EU states have publicly said they would block Scotland rejoining the EU. Never mind the unanswered Border questions, similar to NI but it would arguably be even more difficult due to a land border. Along with their idea of keeping the British Pound while rejecting the idea of being British. Pie in the sky stuff.
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tetsujin1979
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What countries have said they would block Scottish membership?
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TigerRoll
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Spain being one. Due to their issues with Catalonia. Then the next issue is if Scotland would meet the financial requirements to join the EU.
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the_walls
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The Spanish have said they have no issues with potential Scottish membership as long as they achieve independence through the Westminster legal structure and it is not a UDI. Anyone else other than the Spanish?
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colemanY2K
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I pulled you up last week for posting falsehoods and I'll do so again... Nicola Sturgeon is not the most hated person in England. According to Yougov "Nicola Sturgeon is the most popular other UK public figure and the most famous". ...and she is more popular in England than Boris! There's no way of knowing which way the referendum would go if it was called in the immediate future. The previous ref was called in early 2012. Support was at circa 31%, it ended up at 45%. People didn't change their minds from pro independence to against, in fact it was quite the opposite. Support for independence grew by 14 percentage points. Detailed analysis undertaken following the ref showed that a large % who voted no did so because the Yes side failed to put forward creditable solutions, they failed to win the economic argument. It takes no stretch if the imagination to say mistakes will be learned from last time around. Polling for independence is currently hovering around 50% which is a damn sight better than 31% where it was when the ref was called in 2012. Britain is the island btw. They'll still be British even if they become independent. ...and as for Spain well Walls has already put you right on that one.
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Newryrep
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yeah not every conservative voter is an irish republican...……..
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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Sham157
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The jet setting car valet destroyed again
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Green Cockade
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Labour still runs Wales. The SNP runs Scotland, with significant backing from the Greens. Sinn Fein is on course to become the most popular party in NI as it is in the rest of Ireland. The Tories have England but we'll see what happens when the full corrosive impact of Brexit kicks in. Interesting days ahead. The UK as we know it is on borrowed time.
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the_walls
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Another Brexit win for global Britain, this time on UK hauliers facing a shortage of drivers. https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1391678146584498177
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