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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


So who are the UK far left who have let their mask slip?

I mentioned social media. 
Aye, the Social Media Party are very popular, at 18% in the polls I think
18%, ah das ist sehr gut..
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Of course it's influential

The slight problem is that your previous message was quite clearly about people involved in running in actual electoral politics and not about social media

No, it was clearly about social media. I literally said "social media".

Most of these people don't want to get involved in electoral politics in any serious sense. 
No, you said "social media" afterwards

A previous post was a clear reference to people actually involved in electoral politics

This one below

I have literally no idea what you're arguing about here, you're just grunting 

You came into the topic to bitch about Corbyn and you've got nothing to back it up other than sheer hatred

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


Who are the far left? I keep hearing this term being bandied around especially in the UK and US. 
Joe Biden is apparently far left according to some of the wingnuts in the states. 

Europe has a far left. Its not commonplace. But it exists. Generally hides behind terms like "democratic socialist" while every part of the platform will be state based. Often very contradictory about the type of popular uprising they like, and inconsistent on foreign affairs.. Loaded with populist rhetoric. Light on solutions. Could end every policy proposal with the refrain of "vote "xyz" for SU President".

 


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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

No, you said "social media" afterwards

A previous post was a clear reference to people actually involved in electoral politics

This one below

I have literally no idea what you're arguing about here, you're just grunting 

You came into the topic to bitch about Corbyn and you've got nothing to back it up other than sheer hatred



Oh yeah, that post. Thats just truth, not hatred or "grunting". MC asked about the far left, and I gave a primer of what the European Far left is. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2020 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

No, you said "social media" afterwards

A previous post was a clear reference to people actually involved in electoral politics

This one below

I have literally no idea what you're arguing about here, you're just grunting 

You came into the topic to bitch about Corbyn and you've got nothing to back it up other than sheer hatred



Oh yeah, that post. Thats just truth, not hatred or "grunting". MC asked about the far left, and I gave a primer of what the European Far left is. 
You're nuts

You came onto the thread to bitch about Corbyn and all you have is "far left"

Corbyn isn't even near far left, he's moderate social democratic by European standards

Yeah, because milquetoast centrism is the answer, or something
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

You're nuts

You came onto the thread to bitch about Corbyn and all you have is "far left"

Corbyn isn't even near far left, he's moderate social democratic by European standards

Yeah, because milquetoast centrism is the answer, or something

I never once said Corbyn was far left since I came onto the thread.

But criticism of the European Far Left is now "grunting" and "hatred". Ridiculous stuff.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

You're nuts

You came onto the thread to bitch about Corbyn and all you have is "far left"

Corbyn isn't even near far left, he's moderate social democratic by European standards

Yeah, because milquetoast centrism is the answer, or something

I never once said Corbyn was far left since I came onto the thread.

But criticism of the European Far Left is now "grunting" and "hatred". Ridiculous stuff.
I haven't a clue what you're on about then or why you're even commenting, and that's more of a clue than you have
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Is this a cry for attention or what? LOL
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

I haven't a clue what you're on about then or why you're even commenting, and that's more of a clue than you have

Ad hominem would work better if I wasn't directly responding to your post which said I was "grunting".
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

I haven't a clue what you're on about then or why you're even commenting, and that's more of a clue than you have

Ad hominem would work better if I wasn't directly responding to your post which said I was "grunting".
I think I'll leave you to grunt at yourself, mate, life's too short for engaging with idiocy
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

I think I'll leave you to grunt at yourself, mate, life's too short for engaging with idiocy

I never grunted.
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Someone’s taken it bad that Saint Jeremy f**ked up again 
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The Guardian makes interesting reading today that Starmer had spoken with Corbyn in advance of the publication of the report, and that the approach that would be taken was also discussed.


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Nice takedown of tory boot-licker, Kirsty Wark, on Newsnight last night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BarnabyRaine/status/1321972804347187200

Never let the leading role the BBC took in the dispicable vilification-campaign of Corbyn be forgotten.

It was a full-scale establishment hit-job.
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Nice takedown of tory boot-licker, Kirsty Wark, on Newsnight last night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BarnabyRaine/status/1321972804347187200

Never let the leading role the BBC took in the dispicable vilification-campaign of Corbyn be forgotten.

It was a full-scale establishment hit-job.

Eh ? she is labour through an through as can be seen by any of her interviews re scottish independence  - i am sure ET can verify 
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Nice takedown of tory boot-licker, Kirsty Wark, on Newsnight last night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BarnabyRaine/status/1321972804347187200

Never let the leading role the BBC took in the dispicable vilification-campaign of Corbyn be forgotten.

It was a full-scale establishment hit-job.

Eh ? she is labour through an through as can be seen by any of her interviews re scottish independence  - i am sure ET can verify 
 
Yeah, she has long-established links with the blairite, red-tory, entryist right of the Labour party. We know this.

But are you seriously trying to suggest she, Newsnight and the BBC as a whole were all that put out by the tory triumph over Corbyn's Labour at the last GE? She's a right winger.

Based on the above clip, do you think her conduct and approach was fair and balanced? Does she treat tories and their supporters with such derision and with so little respect?

Anyway, I doubt that guy will be invited back again anytime soon... 



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If there's anyone who's a red-tory it's the man at the very top. Ex-Magistrate at a court who sentenced people for protesting. How very democratic.

Let's be honest he only suspended Corbyn to gain some relevancy as he knows he's also getting whitewashed by a Govt who took 6 months to figure out a what the benefits of a facemask is.

The only man who's put up a decent challenge in the last 12 months, isn't even in British politics currently, was yer man now dubbed even by BBC and Sky as the 'New King of the North of England' Andy Burnham
Current state of affairs I would comfortably say literally everyone up here in the north would vote for Burnham, and I've said it in the past Labour's biggest mistake historically will be was electing Ed Miliband over him.

The current COVID situation has created a north/south divide where major cities like London are getting away with absolute leniency whereas Liverpool, Manchester and Yorkshire are getting hit with restrictions with close to zero funding. 
You might of seen it in the news but Burnham stood up to that sh*t and his popularity has surged to the point he would be a genuine threat to Boris if he ever returned to the Shadow Cabinet.


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And why would anyone be surprised?

Poorest areas of England four times as likely to face lockdown as richest:

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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Nice takedown of tory boot-licker, Kirsty Wark, on Newsnight last night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BarnabyRaine/status/1321972804347187200

Never let the leading role the BBC took in the dispicable vilification-campaign of Corbyn be forgotten.

It was a full-scale establishment hit-job.

Eh ? she is labour through an through as can be seen by any of her interviews re scottish independence  - i am sure ET can verify 
 
Yeah, she has long-established links with the blairite, red-tory, entryist right of the Labour party. We know this.

But are you seriously trying to suggest she, Newsnight and the BBC as a whole were all that put out by the tory triumph over Corbyn's Labour at the last GE? She's a right winger.

Based on the above clip, do you think her conduct and approach was fair and balanced? Does she treat tories and their supporters with such derision and with so little respect?

Anyway, I doubt that guy will be invited back again anytime soon... 


I don’t have a lot of time for her because of her unionist leanings 

As for Corbyn his Achilles heal was brexit , the anti semitism was a smear but the lack of a position on brexit was the icing on the cake don’t know why they bothered with the smear he was dead man walking politically on the biggest question of a generation 
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