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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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1. We are going round in circles.
2. I think that is exactly what he did and did so in a way that kept his own party's support from completely splitting. The main reasons for a 'leave' vote were because of frustration with the government, a government that arrogantly misjudged the public mood. 3. Maybe not directly, certainly indirectly. Look at how London has been gentrified and hipster filled. Funny how it happened as a result of Thatcher and Blair. Seeing people earn ridiculous wages for doing f**k all is just an insult to people. It obviously needs to be taken further but it is a start.
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Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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1.Agreed. 2.But he didn't led a campaign to remain, and he certainly never got out amongst the Labour areas that were swinging towards leaving. He didn't do that. 3.I disagree. Capping wages for the sake of it would do absolutely nothing. It could be achieved in a more sensible way through adjusting tax bands, which will have a widespread and direct public benefit in increasing funds for public services, and through sensible Government expenditure could make a noticeable difference. Suggestions of wage capping are just lazy, and I would question what 'indirect' benefits would be created from such a policy.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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1. 2. He wasn't supposed to, if he had they might have lost more than a by-election. 3. It should be done in conjunction with higher tax bands. Personally speaking it would make me feel less murderous when I land in Liverpool street, they are lucky they have tight gun laws.
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Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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I just focus on the fact that the station has a Krispy Kreme!
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Liam Brady Joined: 05 Nov 2013 Location: Glasgow Status: Offline Points: 1013 |
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Could have actually been much worse for Labour in Copeland. One of the applicants for the candidacy at this by-election just passed was former mediocre Scottish Labour MP Thomas Docherty. An utter fool who would have lost them even more votes had he been selected.
There's been a few suggestions that the Labour candidate in Copeland's reluctance to do TV and radio spots and present her own personal agenda may have been a mistake. But that's largely irrelevant now. On the bright side. MP's from nine different political parties earlier today united to support Eilidh Whiteford's Private Members Bill for the UK to ratify the Istanbul Convention on violence against women. A couple of Tory MP's led by the odious far-right MP Philip Davies (look him up he is a total cant) tried to stop it by filibustering it (so it would run out of parliamentary time and be shelved) but they were thwarted in their attempts. Nice to have a good news story from Westminster once in a while
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Jack Charlton Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9981 |
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Does anyone know if clonbhoy has an opinion on this topic, or any other for that matter? He really needs to put himself out there more
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Have you one? Or even a point?
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/25/corbyn-copeland-byelection-tom-watson-mccluskey
I think this article is interesting. It talks of "normalising" defeat, which I feel is what Corbyn, McDonnell etc are trying to do. Previous issues related to polls are also not justifiable reasons to ignore the major discrepancy between the Tories and Labour at the moment, as Copeland is a manifestation of the bad numbers. *My links never seem to work. But the article is readily available through Google.
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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'Father of the House', 86 year old Gerald Kaufman has died.
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Robbie Keane Stay Home & watch Lethal Weapon Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Ath Cliath Status: Offline Points: 37947 |
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Be interesting to see what the Labour vote will be like. It's one of their safest seats in Westminster.
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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At least he won't be able to do everything in his power to turn the electorate against his party, leave that to Mandy and the media.
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Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10532 |
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If you take John McDonnell's viewpoint.
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Robbie Keane Stay Home & watch Lethal Weapon Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Ath Cliath Status: Offline Points: 37947 |
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Ironic that he comes across a lot more Prime Ministerial now then he did when he actually was PM |
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Definitely not ironic but I get what you are saying. I am just glad that somebody has stated the flipping obvious.
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Very little to dispute about what he says.
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It seems to be a mixture of bigotry, prejudice and intolerance. It scapegoats minorities. It is a poison in any political system – destroying civility and decency and understanding. Here in the UK we should give it short shrift, for it is not the people we are – nor the country we are.”
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