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Universal
Away Ticketing Scheme Last 10 away games including away friendlies are taken into
account– ie approximately two campaigns
so should be a representative timescale. Scheme starts next campaign . ·
2 campaigns is only an approximation of
the 10 games as there could be away friendlies
- games in London etc would be viewed as away friendlies ·
Essentially 4 years so it should be a
representative timescale ·
If tickets ever became scarce , then friendlies
give new applicants a chance to get their foot on the ladder ·
As Game 11 is added Game 1 drops off ·
Next WC campaign is unlikely to be
scarce for tickets so it’s a perfect test bed Each away game is allocated 1 point , (unless allocation clearly does not
cover demand) those with the most points are allocated tickets down to where
the number of tickets remaining is less
than the number of people on the relevant points then a ballot will be
undertaken ·
Straightforward 1 point no matter where
the location is as long as its an away
game ·
Where demand exceeds supply a point is
not awarded ( tickets will though) otherwise those on the most points could
pull away from those on lesser points only because of the low allocation eg
Andorra and not because of those on lesser points not wanting/able to go to the
game.(however may be looked at if abused ie applications with no intention of
going) ·
Points will only be awarded if tickets are
sourced from the FAI – no home tickets/freebies etc will be considered ·
If implemented the TO will then be able
to state that due to an allocation of x No of tickets those on y points or
better are eligible for tickets – thus negating the need for every man and
their dog to phone the TO in the weeks prior to a match asking for tickets
tying up their resources A Season
Ticket holder will be awarded 3 points per campaign – so there is an incentive
but it doesn’t unfairly impact too much on those who are not season ticket
holders ·
Home games are NOT a level playing
field where as away games are , as practically everybody will need a flight to
get to an away game ( UK away games for UK based fans notwithstanding) however……. ·
Season Ticket holders/Block
bookers HAVE to be incentivized/rewarded
, I feel 3 points per campaign will achieve this and is a compromise on ALL
parties ·
The 3 points shall be added on 1st
Aug at the start of the relevant campaign ie Aug 2012 Aug 2014 etc ·
The maximum number of points achievable
is thus 16 ie a season ticket for 2 campaigns
and the full 10 away matches ie (3 x 2) + 10 = 16. Non season ticket
holders maximum is 10 ·
At the beginning of the third campaign
the first 3 points awarded for the season ticket will drop off to be replaced
by another 3 if a season ticket is renewed, or none if the season ticket is not
renewed ·
Individual home games are not
considered Each
request for tickets must be backed up by naming who the tickets are
for ie the tickets can be in one name
but all the recipients must be named ·
Self explanatory - it is not up to the person in who’s name
the tickets are in to decide who gets the tickets – it is the FAI’s. The
tickets must go to the named recipients ·
This should also eliminate the multiple
requests from different members of the same group which distorts the actual
demand and will thus make allocating tickets easier as the actual demand is
known ·
It is primarily to cut down on
unnecessary expense rather than sending out tickets individually ·
Eg Season Ticket No/Cust Ref No 15550 Newryrep – Recipients 15550A
Newryrep, 15550B Mrs Newryrep Random
checks can be undertaken for proof of travel and ticket collection in the
destination city is also an option ·
Self explanatory – may be required if
it appears the system is being abused – points can be deducted if no proof
offered (the Scots acknowledge it is an issue for them) ·
% Ticket collection in a destination
also may be used as proof of travel as well
if timescales for ticket distribution are particularly tight due to late
arrival of host tickets ·
A ticket stub is not proof of travel –
proof required would be hotel bill in persons name ATM withdrawal/CC
withdrawal, boarding pass possibly Cost – To
be honest it should be standard practice for a company to keep its customers
details up to date HOWEVER if a small cost is incurred I would propose a small
increase on the - 2 euro handling fee on each away ticket ·
I have taken some soundings regarding
the Scots system which is £20 (E23) a year but has 32500 members and I AM NOT
convinced that it couldn’t be streamlined down to the basics – ie just keep our
records up to date ·
We don’t need a membership pack with
free gift, newsletter, city guides etc so for that reason I am against a
blanket payment every year from all ·
We must be the only customers that have
to pay to have our records updated ·
Also I am loath just throwing money at
a ‘problem’ as it rarely solved anything – see Irish Health service for further
proof – copyright Bertie Ahern ·
HOWEVER there are likely to be some
costs with it and since it is primarily an away scheme I would propose an
increase in the 2 euro ‘handling’ fee per ticket to 5 euro. (not even the price
of a foaming pint of Stella Artois in Dublin) Club
allocation ·
Allocation will be as per
their individual members records in the universal scheme when the ticket allocation is scarce ·
where tickets are not scarce they can
have as many tickets as they want – same as everybody else It is by
no means a perfect scheme but it is IMO ·
Fair ·
Transparent ·
Relatively
easy to understand ·
Relatively
easy to implement ·
Not an impediment
to new members ·
In no way
restrictive ·
An
incentive to become a Season Ticket Holder ·
A nicely
balance between the home v away, regular
away v occasional away, hardcore v big game Charlie Finally it would be in an individual fans interest to get their own
record with the FAI, or as a minimum have it via a trusted partner/friend/sibling/mistress/Supporters
Club and not rely on the whims of casual
acquaintances/some guy down the pub,/a dads friend 2nd cousin who if
tickets are in demand for big games can withhold them if it suits them. Also if the away game is important, handy to get to, in a glamorous
destination or a combination of all three do not EXPECT to get a ticket if you have no record with the FAI, so DONT
come on here/ Joe Duffy and bleat about not getting a ticket because hopefully there
will be a scheme in place. |
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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Bump ahh the memories
Universal
Away Ticketing Scheme Last 10 away games including away friendlies are taken into
account– ie approximately two campaigns
so should be a representative timescale. Scheme starts next campaign . ·
2 campaigns is only an approximation of
the 10 games as there could be away friendlies
- games in London etc would be viewed as away friendlies ·
Essentially 4 years so it should be a
representative timescale ·
If tickets ever became scarce , then friendlies
give new applicants a chance to get their foot on the ladder ·
As Game 11 is added Game 1 drops off ·
Next WC campaign is unlikely to be
scarce for tickets so it’s a perfect test bed Each away game is allocated 1 point , (unless allocation clearly does not
cover demand) those with the most points are allocated tickets down to where
the number of tickets remaining is less
than the number of people on the relevant points then a ballot will be
undertaken ·
Straightforward 1 point no matter where
the location is as long as its an away
game ·
Where demand exceeds supply a point is
not awarded ( tickets will though) otherwise those on the most points could
pull away from those on lesser points only because of the low allocation eg
Andorra and not because of those on lesser points not wanting/able to go to the
game.(however may be looked at if abused ie applications with no intention of
going) ·
Points will only be awarded if tickets are
sourced from the FAI – no home tickets/freebies etc will be considered ·
If implemented the TO will then be able
to state that due to an allocation of x No of tickets those on y points or
better are eligible for tickets – thus negating the need for every man and
their dog to phone the TO in the weeks prior to a match asking for tickets
tying up their resources A Season
Ticket holder will be awarded 3 points per campaign – so there is an incentive
but it doesn’t unfairly impact too much on those who are not season ticket
holders ·
Home games are NOT a level playing
field where as away games are , as practically everybody will need a flight to
get to an away game ( UK away games for UK based fans notwithstanding) however……. ·
Season Ticket holders/Block
bookers HAVE to be incentivized/rewarded
, I feel 3 points per campaign will achieve this and is a compromise on ALL
parties ·
The 3 points shall be added on 1st
Aug at the start of the relevant campaign ie Aug 2012 Aug 2014 etc ·
The maximum number of points achievable
is thus 16 ie a season ticket for 2 campaigns
and the full 10 away matches ie (3 x 2) + 10 = 16. Non season ticket
holders maximum is 10 ·
At the beginning of the third campaign
the first 3 points awarded for the season ticket will drop off to be replaced
by another 3 if a season ticket is renewed, or none if the season ticket is not
renewed ·
Individual home games are not
considered Each
request for tickets must be backed up by naming who the tickets are
for ie the tickets can be in one name
but all the recipients must be named ·
Self explanatory - it is not up to the person in who’s name
the tickets are in to decide who gets the tickets – it is the FAI’s. The
tickets must go to the named recipients ·
This should also eliminate the multiple
requests from different members of the same group which distorts the actual
demand and will thus make allocating tickets easier as the actual demand is
known ·
It is primarily to cut down on
unnecessary expense rather than sending out tickets individually ·
Eg Season Ticket No/Cust Ref No 15550 Newryrep – Recipients 15550A
Newryrep, 15550B Mrs Newryrep Random
checks can be undertaken for proof of travel and ticket collection in the
destination city is also an option ·
Self explanatory – may be required if
it appears the system is being abused – points can be deducted if no proof
offered (the Scots acknowledge it is an issue for them) ·
% Ticket collection in a destination
also may be used as proof of travel as well
if timescales for ticket distribution are particularly tight due to late
arrival of host tickets ·
A ticket stub is not proof of travel –
proof required would be hotel bill in persons name ATM withdrawal/CC
withdrawal, boarding pass possibly Cost – To
be honest it should be standard practice for a company to keep its customers
details up to date HOWEVER if a small cost is incurred I would propose a small
increase on the - 2 euro handling fee on each away ticket ·
I have taken some soundings regarding
the Scots system which is £20 (E23) a year but has 32500 members and I AM NOT
convinced that it couldn’t be streamlined down to the basics – ie just keep our
records up to date ·
We don’t need a membership pack with
free gift, newsletter, city guides etc so for that reason I am against a
blanket payment every year from all ·
We must be the only customers that have
to pay to have our records updated ·
Also I am loath just throwing money at
a ‘problem’ as it rarely solved anything – see Irish Health service for further
proof – copyright Bertie Ahern ·
HOWEVER there are likely to be some
costs with it and since it is primarily an away scheme I would propose an
increase in the 2 euro ‘handling’ fee per ticket to 5 euro. (not even the price
of a foaming pint of Stella Artois in Dublin) Club
allocation ·
Allocation will be as per
their individual members records in the universal scheme when the ticket allocation is scarce ·
where tickets are not scarce they can
have as many tickets as they want – same as everybody else It is by
no means a perfect scheme but it is IMO ·
Fair ·
Transparent ·
Relatively
easy to understand ·
Relatively
easy to implement ·
Not an impediment
to new members ·
In no way
restrictive ·
An
incentive to become a Season Ticket Holder ·
A nicely
balance between the home v away, regular
away v occasional away, hardcore v big game Charlie Finally it would be in an individual fans interest to get their own
record with the FAI, or as a minimum have it via a trusted partner/friend/sibling/mistress/Supporters
Club and not rely on the whims of casual
acquaintances/some guy down the pub,/a dads friend 2nd cousin who if
tickets are in demand for big games can withhold them if it suits them. Also if the away game is important, handy to get to, in a glamorous
destination or a combination of all three do not EXPECT to get a ticket if you have no record with the FAI, so DONT
come on here/ Joe Duffy and bleat about not getting a ticket because hopefully there
will be a scheme in place. |
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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Newryrep
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can one of the mods move this to away section
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