The disgraced John Delaney

Butch wrote: @Baldrick - Same thing will happen again next October & the same arguments will take place about the allocation . If away games are sold out & people on here have received tickets & don't travel they distribute them on here . Who is to say that the next person that gets it deserves it because he was 1st on a list ? The same could be said that a SC giving a ticket to a 1st time away match goer

Edited by Baldrick - 03 Nov 2014 at 11:14pm

Mullingar wrote: Request minutes from Gerry Read on who they all know

Sorry are you saying that the clubs proposed to the FAI before the the Austrai home game that they effectively should deal with away ticket allocations and this was accepted ?

Because if you are its the first anybody on here knew about it ?

I never said they were gaming the system as there is no system but how is it that when it comes to a game there is people sorting other people out with tickets ? I am not saying join a supporters club but it seems that when there is a shortage of tickets for a big game and YBIG posters does not get a good share of them then they fight there corner as a group . But at the same time you don't want to be an officially associated SC to the FAI ? Groups distributing tickets could be just be easily called SC .

Butch wrote: I never said they were gaming the system as there is no system but how is it that when it comes to a game there is people sorting other people out with tickets ? I am not saying join a supporters club but it seems that when there is a shortage of tickets for a big game and YBIG posters does not get a good share of them then they fight there corner as a group . But at the same time you don't want to be an officially associated SC to the FAI ? Groups distributing tickets could be just be easily called SC .

Newryrep wrote: Butch wrote: @Baldrick - Same thing will happen again next October & the same arguments will take place about the allocation . If away games are sold out & people on here have received tickets & don't travel they distribute them on here . Who is to say that the next person that gets it deserves it because he was 1st on a list ? The same could be said that a SC giving a ticket to a 1st time away match goer There was a scheme proposed, read the op in the reminder thread, it will answer all your questions and it covers everything but as Baldrick emphasises Don't expect a ticket to the a game that is either a handy to get to , in a glamourous destination, or of greater significance or a combination of all three

I did read it & I don't expect a ticket but if anybody wants to get a ticket badly enough they will ... I will be travelling to the away games this campaign & do not expect a ticket but I will be there at the games . I have never had problems getting tickets & have been to many home games & a few aways over the years but none of it can be proved so it makes no odds to me to apply through the FAI for away tickets as I have no history

Well, even if they did, a major policy change like that shouldn't be announced at a meeting without also being publicised. SCs might have known but they were among the lucky few.

How are independent fans who aren't necessarily the most tech savvy meant to know?

Long and short of it, the FAI have a lot of questions to answer.

I don't blame anyone in any SC from doing whatever they can to get tickets for their members. The questions all fall to the FAI.

Also, how could there have been a meeting with Q and As with Martin O'Neill in April, 2013? I assume you mean April, 2014.


Edited by SuperDave84 - 03 Nov 2014 at 11:27pm

Butch wrote: Newryrep wrote: Butch wrote: @Baldrick - Same thing will happen again next October & the same arguments will take place about the allocation . If away games are sold out & people on here have received tickets & don't travel they distribute them on here . Who is to say that the next person that gets it deserves it because he was 1st on a list ? The same could be said that a SC giving a ticket to a 1st time away match goer There was a scheme proposed, read the op in the reminder thread, it will answer all your questions and it covers everything but as Baldrick emphasises Don't expect a ticket to the a game that is either a handy to get to , in a glamourous destination, or of greater significance or a combination of all three I did read it & I don't expect a ticket but if anybody wants to get a ticket badly enough they will ... I will be travelling to the away games this campaign & do not expect a ticket but I will be there at the games . I have never had problems getting tickets & have been to many home games & a few aways over the years but none of it can be proved so it makes no odds to me to apply through the FAI for away tickets as I have no history

greenforever wrote: Mullingar wrote: We put a purposal to them which was accepted by Tony and John but had to be cleared at board level. BUT as some people say JD seems to run the show. Since then Mullingar has always gotten aways for every game. Before this we were applying independently and we're victims of the dreaded ballot on many an occasion. How many did you get for Georgia How many Germany Do you not think Scotland should have been pro rata. Say the same as Germany?

On a side note 'the scheme' refers to clubs getting their 'usual' allocation for big away games

Club allocation to remain as existing, but where tickets are scarce their normal allocation should be honored before any additional tickets are offered, same as any individual application.
•     Self explanatory Where tickets are scarce a club/individuals get their normal/regular allocation, where tickets are not scarce they can have as many tickets as they want


If a club on average takes 10 tickets then they should get 10 tickets for a 'big' game

Going through the three issues in your post:

One: how far you go back

You go back ten games..... easy to understand, easy to implement. Even if you disregard games were supply exceeds demand, that still only means going back ten games. The last ten games have not had demand in excess of supply..... the England game was eleven games ago now, and it was the last time demand exceeded supply. Sweden was the game before that and I don't think demand exceeded supply there.

The last ten aways were Germany in Gelsenkirchen, Georgia in Tbilisi, Portugal in New Jersey, Costa Rica in Philadelphia, Italy in London, Poland in Poznan, Germany in Cologne, Austria in Vienna, Wales in Cardiff and Spain in New York. England in London and Sweden in Stockholm were before that. That's ten out of ten games where demand from our side did not exceed supply, as far as I know, or else it was very close. Before that it was the Faroe Islands in Torshavn, Kazakhstan in Astana and Serbia in Belgrade - certainly, demand did not exceed supply for those games.

It takes little effort to identify the last ten games where demand did not exceed supply.

Two: Supporters' clubs

There are plenty of independent travellers who travel from down the country to every game as well, without going on a jollyer on a bus (which happens). That is not a reason for special treatment. No-one is denying that supporters' clubs do good things but they are no different from any other supporters.

Three: People starting out

Why does anyone starting out trying to follow the national team on aways deserve tickets for a glamour game where demand is limited? Why should they get one at the expense of someone who has been at plenty of games previously? Have you any evidence that people are being put off following the national team as a result? It is easy to get tickets for home games - since going back to Lansdowne Road, season tickets have always been available for anyone who wants one.

And as pointed out above, one game in the last fourteen away games has had demand exceed supply. I repeat, why should anyone starting out trying to follow the national team on aways deserve tickets for a glamour game where demand is limited? There has literally been one game since the Euros where demand exceeded supply, before the Scotland game.

The Scotland game is the second game we have played in the last two and a half years (give or take a month, and the England game) where demand has exceeded supply.  To suggest that limited access to tickets is putting people off following the country is simply laughable.


Edited by SuperDave84 - 04 Nov 2014 at 11:52pm