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Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

It's mad that people are happy about the government giving the fai this handout, because if it wasn't for JD's incompetence it wouldn't have been needed in the first place.
I wonder if any media made reference to him recently to the new FAI. They probably can't talk about people who no longer work for them. Seems like he's getting off scott free. 

You can be happy about this bailout and still seething about the disgraced John Delaney's imcompetence and what has gone on. 
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Originally posted by daveyc daveyc wrote:

Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

[QUOTE=Trap junior]I hear there isn't money to pay Stephen Kenny and so Noel King will be taking charge for the next 10 years
That means kinger would be 74 when he retires, on a separate note does kinger have any PRODUCTIVE role with the FAI or is he just collecting his wage untill he hits retirement age.


not sure Noel King and PRODUCTIVE should be in the same sentence


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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

It's mad that people are happy about the government giving the fai this handout, because if it wasn't for JD's incompetence it wouldn't have been needed in the first place.
I wonder if any media made reference to him recently to the new FAI. They probably can't talk about people who no longer work for them. Seems like he's getting off scott free. 

You can be happy about this bailout and still seething about the disgraced John Delaney's imcompetence and what has gone on. 


Until the ocde and revenue investigations are complete no one is getting off scot free and a lot of people are waiting for the knock on the door.
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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

the one thing this has shown up is the chronic underfunding of football as opposed to other sports and it’s criminal that jd and his buddy’s let this happen as well as the mess they left.
 
probably for a good reason when you think what old guard in the FAI would have with more cash if they were given it. Other organisations seem to be much more transparent with funding so easier to give. I read a report last year that said for every €1 invested in sport that €2 is generated so it's a no brainer to invest put more money in now knowing it will be managed in a complete different way. 

Whereas in the past €75 invested in the FAI would have resulted in €75 generated for JD's local chipper & lbs added to his missus' arse...
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Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

The man loves hurling more than football so f**k him. Very reasoned statement fair play irishmufc. 

Nothing wrong with preferring one sport over another but to come out with that pretentious sh*te is hard to stomach. 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

The man loves hurling more than football so f**k him. Very reasoned statement fair play irishmufc. 

Nothing wrong with preferring one sport over another but to come out with that pretentious sh*te is hard to stomach. 

What's pretentious about it? Hurling probably is a more aesthetically pleasing/skilful sport. Footballs appeal lies in separate qualities.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

The man loves hurling more than football so f**k him. Very reasoned statement fair play irishmufc. 

Nothing wrong with preferring one sport over another but to come out with that pretentious sh*te is hard to stomach. 

What's pretentious about it? Hurling probably is a more aesthetically pleasing/skilful sport. Footballs appeal lies in separate qualities.

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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

The man loves hurling more than football so f**k him. Very reasoned statement fair play irishmufc. 

Nothing wrong with preferring one sport over another but to come out with that pretentious sh*te is hard to stomach. 

What's pretentious about it? Hurling probably is a more aesthetically pleasing/skilful sport. Footballs appeal lies in separate qualities.

Stick to the whatever section if you want to talk sh*te and mods delete

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Sweeney's book "There's only one Red Army" about an (inebriated) devotion to Sligo Rovers was excellent.
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Good article here by Dan McDonnell explaining the various goings on in the FAI in the past few weeks. 


It is early days for the new FAI, and obviously there's still a fair bit to go yet as regards reform processes, but things like the regular FAI staff having their jobs guaranteed, the old board members being unceremoniously told that they are finished in major positions of influence (though ideally, they would be finished in minor positions of influence too) and no CEO deciding he'd quite like 300 tickets for Slovakia to distribute as he sees fit are decent indicators of progress. 

As regards the bailout/loan, it's fairly simple, football is too big to fail, and if the GAA or Rugby got themselves involved in similar shenanigans, they wouldn't be allowed fail either, they're also too big to fail. There is a telling line in Dan's article stating that the Government, while in discussions with the LOI among others, straight out told them that their lobbyists had been ineffective as regard obtaining more money for football (thus admitting indirectly that the game was underfunded in the first place). 

Gary Owens, Roy Barrett and Niall Quinn's ease of use with corporate jargon might not be to everyone's taste, but whether we like it or not, they speak the language required to deal with high level stakeholders, whether that be government, banks, UEFA or sponsors, something that was obviously lacking in the last regime, despite appearances and statements to the contrary. 
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After everything that has gone on it just see a light at the end of the tunnel .

I hope that fans to who stayed away in the past return .

I hope that fans who boycotted buying shirts and the like start to invest again . 

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nail on the head . The days of blazers for life and heads in the expenses trough are gone forever and the same reforms need to happen at every level in football so no one can ever run the fai as their own fiefdom.
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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Good article here by Dan McDonnell explaining the various goings on in the FAI in the past few weeks. 


It is early days for the new FAI, and obviously there's still a fair bit to go yet as regards reform processes, but things like the regular FAI staff having their jobs guaranteed, the old board members being unceremoniously told that they are finished in major positions of influence (though ideally, they would be finished in minor positions of influence too) and no CEO deciding he'd quite like 300 tickets for Slovakia to distribute as he sees fit are decent indicators of progress. 

As regards the bailout/loan, it's fairly simple, football is too big to fail, and if the GAA or Rugby got themselves involved in similar shenanigans, they wouldn't be allowed fail either, they're also too big to fail. There is a telling line in Dan's article stating that the Government, while in discussions with the LOI among others, straight out told them that their lobbyists had been ineffective as regard obtaining more money for football (thus admitting indirectly that the game was underfunded in the first place). 

Gary Owens, Roy Barrett and Niall Quinn's ease of use with corporate jargon might not be to everyone's taste, but whether we like it or not, they speak the language required to deal with high level stakeholders, whether that be government, banks, UEFA or sponsors, something that was obviously lacking in the last regime, despite appearances and statements to the contrary. 


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A commitment to protect low and middle earners on the FAI spectrum is pointed and reflects the wishes of the rank and file for highly paid Abbotstown staff to be held accountable for their role in the implementation of day-to-day culture under the old regime.

The FAI's interim bosses and the independent directors have done their homework through any available avenues and got a handle on the view of employees.

Indeed, it's understood that Owens and his team will make provisions so they are able to deal with the cost of further severance packages if that's what it takes to make satisfactory changes.

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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

the one thing this has shown up is the chronic underfunding of football as opposed to other sports and it’s criminal that jd and his buddy’s let this happen as well as the mess they left.
 
probably for a good reason when you think what old guard in the FAI would have with more cash if they were given it. Other organisations seem to be much more transparent with funding so easier to give. I read a report last year that said for every €1 invested in sport that €2 is generated so it's a no brainer to invest put more money in now knowing it will be managed in a complete different way. 

If that's true Sausy, then a no-brainer is right.
 

To put the chronic under-funding of football into context, my local GAA club received the same grant from the Sports Capital grants as the FAI did (initially). Reasons given were for infrastructure like parking, new dressing rooms, an all-weather training pitch and new pitches. Of all those reasons given, only the all-weather pitch is a valid reason, as there is more than enough parking, and they have 3 pitches already.

Someone mentioned lobbying, or the lack of effective lobbying from the previous board and that's a key point. The Minister lobbying on behalf of the local GAA just so happens to be related to the current Meath manager, who would be a well respected figure within the local GAA club, and by extension, the local community.

Now this isn't to begrudge the grant they got, far play to them, as it will do wonders for the development of Gaelic Games locally, (at the cost of the football club unfortunately). But it just shows how effective it can be to have the right people working on your behalf. As Deise said, people may not be keen on the likes of Quinn being involved, but if it helps restore the trust of the government to increase funding for the biggest sport in the country, then it can only be positive.
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Delaney is  gone

Ticket reform would have gone unnoticed but for Tony

What is the purpose of ticket clubs like CO88? 

There’s no issue with being wrong.

The CO88 withdrew from the CRISC the day they made a statement distancing themselves from Delaney. They stood silent when individuals were abused by the CRISC (whom have since apologised Smile). And the CO88 seek to remain in the inner circle after seeing over fans being abused, potentially staff being made redundant for self benefit. It disgusts me


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Presume you mean Tony as in Drumcondra69?

Nearly worth it's own thread. But he - and the rest of the Mandate Committee (Paul Dornan, Siobhain O'Brien, Martin O'Meara, Eoin Byrne, Kevin McDaid and Paul Hickey) - have been absolutely instumental in all this. 
Led the way in ticket restructuring and many of the overall proposals for reform are directly from a document submitted by the mandate commiteee.
Tony is speaking consistently alongside Brian Kerr, Niall Quinn, politicians among others.

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Good to hear Ger Clap

Good piece from Tommy Conlon today:


 And sure enough, the taxpayer has ultimately been forced to come riding to the rescue.

Which is why it is essential that every time-server who was ever complicit with the previous regime, through omission or commission, should be taken out by the roots. Not one of them should be seen sniffing around the place. 

The bailout becomes a lot more palatable if guilty parties are made to face the consequences of their behaviour. The purges should continue until morale improves.

A similar modus operandi should apply to the various vested interests that will come crawling out of the woodwork in the coming months and years to resist the planned reforms. 

If they don't like it, too bad. They also should be summarily exposed and sidelined. 

Thursday in theory was the start of a new era; in practice, a monumental job of work remains to be done.
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