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What do you want Hans? You just keep posting the same stuff over and over again. If everyone just says that you’re right, will that satisfy you?

There’s no new points being made. It’s just post after post of ranting.
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I think Bob's point is that it's easy to be outraged and vocal about it yet, when the main man was in charge, nothing was actively being done to change things.

The point seems to be that there are plenty coming out criticising Delaney after the horse has bolted but did little enough when Delaney was in charge and is implicitly contrasting it with what plenty of others on here and off here were doing: protesting, organising, coming up with a mandate for change, getting people to sign up to it, engaging with the FAI on foot of that mandate, and trying to effect change, but without being compromised by involvement with the FAI, and avoiding what otherwise appears to be empty criticism or what could easily be dismissed by the FAI as hurling from the ditch.

That seemed to me to be the basis of the question but I could be wrong. It does come across that it could be an ad hominem attack but it doesn't seem to be the most egregious example; it's not awful to ask someone to show what they did when Delaney was in charge.
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Rumours in schoolboy football circles that the national u13 & 15 leagues will be scrapped to save costs. Anywan hear anything?
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Rumours in schoolboy football circles that the national u13 & 15 leagues will be scrapped to save costs. Anywan hear anything?

Would be typical fai given its a success story
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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Rumours in schoolboy football circles that the national u13 & 15 leagues will be scrapped to save costs. Anywan hear anything?

Would be typical fai given its a success story

The SFAI aren't supporting it as it weakens their power, influence and potential for making money. They're lookint to ban any players who play in the underage LOI from the Kennedy Cup. They've refused to move to summer soccer despite the consistent cancellations due to bad weather during the winter. They hate the concept. 

Personally I think that 13s is too young to be going to LOI (or elite football full stop)and the concept is flawed at present becuase of the 2 year age gap. They'd have been better off bridging one of those gaps from the 15s up instead of introducing the 13s but that's a different argument.  
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Should never have introduced u13s.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

I think Bob's point is that it's easy to be outraged and vocal about it yet, when the main man was in charge, nothing was actively being done to change things.

The point seems to be that there are plenty coming out criticising Delaney after the horse has bolted but did little enough when Delaney was in charge and is implicitly contrasting it with what plenty of others on here and off here were doing: protesting, organising, coming up with a mandate for change, getting people to sign up to it, engaging with the FAI on foot of that mandate, and trying to effect change, but without being compromised by involvement with the FAI, and avoiding what otherwise appears to be empty criticism or what could easily be dismissed by the FAI as hurling from the ditch.

That seemed to me to be the basis of the question but I could be wrong. It does come across that it could be an ad hominem attack but it doesn't seem to be the most egregious example; it's not awful to ask someone to show what they did when Delaney was in charge.

That's fair enough. My issue being very few have any idea what I or others have or haven't done regards removing Delaney from the FAI. Tbh, I just think it's a really strange line to go down, especially when the FAI are burning to the ground. It is a forum after all, is the whole point not debate and discussion? 

I think my comment today was fair. I was just mentioning the FAIs no show  at the Oireachtas and how little has changed imo. I would like to see them gone at this stage. I think the pay off to Delaney was the last disgusting financial act of a despicable organization. I hope a new organisation comes in in the next year or 2 and Irish football really gets to ground zero and starts to move forward.


"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

What do you want Hans? You just keep posting the same stuff over and over again. If everyone just says that you’re right, will that satisfy you?

There’s no new points being made. It’s just post after post of ranting.

Meh tbh. If that's what you take from mine and others input on this thread today. Meh.


Edited by Hans Moleman - 10 Dec 2019 at 8:40pm
"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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To be honest I have no issue with the FAI not turning up at the Oireachtas meeting tomorrow.

Paul.Cooke, and whoever else is now running the FAI, are better served in meeting their bank etc and trying to finalise their new banking arrangements. They are crucial at the moment, far more important than an opportunity for a group of politicians to grandstand. 

Need to make sure the show is kept on road and job losses are limited as much as possible,, will be plenty of time.in new year for enquiries and blame games
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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

To be honest I have no issue with the FAI not turning up at the Oireachtas meeting tomorrow.

Paul.Cooke, and whoever else is now running the FAI, are better served in meeting their bank etc and trying to finalise their new banking arrangements. They are crucial at the moment, far more important than an opportunity for a group of politicians to grandstand. 

Need to make sure the show is kept on road and job losses are limited as much as possible,, will be plenty of time.in new year for enquiries and blame games

I immediately thought of Rangers trying to fix their accounts and this sketch 

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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

To be honest I have no issue with the FAI not turning up at the Oireachtas meeting tomorrow.

Paul.Cooke, and whoever else is now running the FAI, are better served in meeting their bank etc and trying to finalise their new banking arrangements. They are crucial at the moment, far more important than an opportunity for a group of politicians to grandstand. 

Need to make sure the show is kept on road and job losses are limited as much as possible,, will be plenty of time.in new year for enquiries and blame games

Yeah some of the committee members when they speak about the topic I find they are spoofing. Looking to ask questions on less important issues. None of the other bodies asked to appear before them bothered show up either. 
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FAI to be rebranded as Confederation of Irish Football 
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Originally posted by Missy Missy wrote:

FAI to be rebranded as Confederation of Irish Football 


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Me thinks it need something a tad stronger than CIF pal
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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

To be honest I have no issue with the FAI not turning up at the Oireachtas meeting tomorrow.

Paul.Cooke, and whoever else is now running the FAI, are better served in meeting their bank etc and trying to finalise their new banking arrangements. They are crucial at the moment, far more important than an opportunity for a group of politicians to grandstand. 

Need to make sure the show is kept on road and job losses are limited as much as possible,, will be plenty of time.in new year for enquiries and blame games

Can't agree. What possible benefit is it to Irish football to try repay that debt? Start again as a new company, hopefully the government step in with a direct contract scheme to the coaches, everyone else who ever worked directly for them is a part of the problem. 
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The proposed Oireachtas committee appearance was mainly for the benefit of politicians gearing up for an election next year. Highly unlikely a single different question would be asked to the ones that were asked by the media last Thursday. Just different people asking the questions and hoping to get their heads on the 6-1 news to remind constituents who they are. Equally unlikely that anything has changed re the FAI's appalling finances since last Thursday. 

Minister already wasn't going, neither were Sport Ireland, all this would have been was a charade. In the current climate and entirely because of the FAI's own behaviour previously, some will equate accountability to being at the beck and call of politicians to appear before them and justify their existence, it isn't. They are better off working on their refinancing (if that proves possible, which it may not- but one way or another, that issue will have to be settled definitively) and getting on with the appointment of their independent directors than providing some backbenchers with air time. 




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