The disgraced John Delaney |
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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So the FAI are 55 million in the hole. Deloitte say that the jig is essentially up. FAI staff are going to be let go en masse. Yet it's 6 weeks since John Delaney pocketed 463k in a settlement package. This after being on full pay for almost 6 months while on gardening leave.
So even after bankrupting the association and taking out wages and BIK totaling close to a million euros in each of his last few years at the FAI, the board still saw the good sense to pay this absolute piece of dirt 650 thousand euros total between gardening leave pay and his severance package since last March when this broke. I wonder do the lads on here who were absolutely staunch that the FAI giving John Delaney a golden handshake was the smart move still feel the same way? I wonder do the lads on here who only a couple of months ago laughed at the notion that John Delaney or others at the FAI could be caught up in illegal activity, still think that nothing illegal has happened? Delaney is absolutely p*ssing himself laughing. An association that is essentially bankrupt and has little chance of survival, has paid him 650k while on its last legs. It is beyond disgusting and a fitting end to a despicable FAI board. Delaney should have been fired last March. There is absolutely no doubt about that. Not one single cent more should have made its way to him since March. I look forward to the YBIG HR peoples responses on this also.
Edited by Hans Moleman - 07 Dec 2019 at 4:00am |
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Ray Houghton Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3290 |
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Wrap it up
There's no end game at all to this unless it happens Every section of the game needs to look at themselves and their interests and then come together under the idea of how can we all make a bigger association work. Everyone is part of this problem, inclusive fans, including me, we have fed a monster that will continue to eat itself ant time their is a hint of success Either have a culture of football in this country we are proud of or continue on a 20 year cycle of , reform, scandal, reform, scandal. Either that or send in the gas or the IFA to look after us, cos as much as they f**king hate football here, they would still have done a better job. |
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inlikeflynn
500 Club la la la Joined: 29 Oct 2014 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 720 |
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if the association is wound up, and a new governing body takes over immediately so we still have a national team and league, what would be the impact on fans?
Any long term ticket holders? ST or 5 / 10 years premium? Anything else that could make fans creditors of the FAI? What about something annoying like having bought the newest jersey and it is replaced immediately but you paid top dollar, thinking that it would have some life in it? For all those calling for the whole shebang to be wound up, what would the negative personal consequences ti fans be?
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32726 |
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There are people who are on low to medium wages who could possibly lose their job and you are worried about buying a jersey and it no longer being the official jersey. Ffs.
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inlikeflynn
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I’m talking about how the winding up of the FAI can have an impact on individual fans. It should be possible to ask a question without it being compared to the plight of employees. If the only thing which matters is the wages of the staff, is there any point in discussing anything else? I’ll bet you’re great fun on a night out. All conversations ranked in order of importance, no deviation from the most emotive. “There’s a housing crisis in Dublin, kids with nowhere to go for Christmas and you’re complaining about the selection on the jukebox ffs”.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32726 |
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Go ring Joe Duffy. The only people.who should be worrying about whether the jersey is worn by the players or not are kids. In the scheme of things it's so low level and irrelevant. The org is 55 million in debt and facing possible redundancies and the possible shutting down of programmes etc and you are bringing up issues like changing our jersey prematurely as possinle a reason to keep.the status quo. Talk about failing to see the big picture at a time of crisis.
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AKA pedantic kunt
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inlikeflynn
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I am asking what the impact will be on fans, those not directly involved with the association. Can you not understand that there could be such an impact?
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Shedite
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Along with all the low to mid ranked employees at the fai,
I"m sure Stephen Kenny is wondering if his contract will be upheld. |
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thebronze14
Jack Charlton Derry City Til I Die Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Location: Dublin/Donegal Status: Offline Points: 7168 |
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Tbh probably won't bother with an st next year. Will be freebies galore going on. Kinda wished I hadn't started going again a year and a half ago with all that's happened
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inlikeflynn
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I presume that before the FAI goes kaput, the government sets up some interim body, the clubs sign up, they go to UEFA and say this is the new Ireland, and on the day when the FAI is no more, this organisation is there to take its place. Hopefully international competition should continue with the same players, but would we keep our rank? Likewise, create a new league with the LoI clubs, but do last year’s achievements in a now defunct league allow clubs to play in Europe? If we write off the playoffs, we could maybe re-form and be back with a new FA for the start of the WC 2022 playoffs. Even if we went to the bottom of the world rankings, you would expect us to be as competitive as we are at present, due to the same squad, so be bottom seeds in a qualifying group but finish second in a group, maybe third. Become the highest rising nation in the FIFA rankings for many months.
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Saint Tom
Jack Charlton Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9981 |
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My destination inchicore my next stop being kilmainham
Where patriots and super saints are the topics of conversation |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32726 |
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We didnt finish second in our group as things stand.
Over the last few campaigns it has been mainly third. That's our new level
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9fingers
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How many times has it been explained to you? Nobody was happy with Delaney getting a pay off but most* understood that the FAI not having any money meant they couldn’t afford to sack him and go through the courts. They also clearly couldn’t afford to keep him on as it would’ve cost them €3million in 12 months time. Most* also understood that legal charges for this sort of behavior in Ireland are literally non existent, no matter how much we wish that wasn’t the case, it is. You can be sure all of Delaneys actions were signed off by (some) of the board, no matter what that **** Conway says. Thus making it nigh on impossible to press charges against Delaney. You really need to stop letting your anger cloud your judgement on this. *not you
Edited by 9fingers - 07 Dec 2019 at 9:44am |
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MayoMark
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Rip it up. Start again. Take the hit with the national team for a period. Football will be fine at grassroots and local level.
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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Ecumenical Matter
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I’m not sure FIFA or UEFA would be too bothered if we replace the Judean People’s Front with the People’s Front of Judea. If the house is in order and they don’t have to provide funding, it should be OK.
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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So even with everything now coming out, you still believe that Delaney hasn't tripped up anywhere that would have merited him being sacked? You believe that Delaney hasn't tripped up anywhere that could lead to legal proceedings against him? Absolutely mind f*cking boggling comments We have a bankrupt football association, owing 50 plus million (I'm guessing up to 70 million by the end of 2019), and you believe the correct thing to do was pay John Delaney 650k between pension payments, golden handshake and gardening leave wages? You are on about him going through the courts. A man who clearly bankrupted the association, by most likely illegal means. Btw, when the association goes bust, which it very likely will, who exactly was Delaney going through the courts to get his monies off if he wasn't settled with? *Your line about the FAI not having any money is absolutely f*cking hilarious. So they have no money, but they pay the man who burnt the association to the ground 650k from March onwards. The level of nonsense is something to behold.
Edited by Hans Moleman - 07 Dec 2019 at 10:09am |
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Maybe things couldn’t have been done, I’m not in any way a legal expert, but as a layman catching up with yesterday’s events I see where Hans is coming from.
If he wasn’t paid off and told to go f**k himself what comeback could he legally have had? I don’t see how it could have impacted the news coming out. It is also fairly apparent that those who paid him off were in on it. Put simply; man who destroyed Irish football gets huge payout from accomplices. If it is the case that nothing could have been done about it then we need to be asking why? Why do those who commit ‘white-collar crime’ get rewarded?
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