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kearney304
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Exactly but what does it matter. We're always so quick to judge people without thinking for one second about their private lives.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Of course it has an effect, but coming up with as an excuse and making him above criticism because of it is just plain wrong. If Harry Arter needed some time off from football I am sure he would have said but he went to a warm weather training camp with his club, Bournemouth didn't just go there for team bonding alone; it was his job. He didn't spend extra time with his family, nobody would have begrudged them if he did, but he didn't! He has spoken magnificently on the subject and I am sure he is helping others, if he needed time I am sure he would have taken it, explained why and all bar the usual twitter cranks would have accepted it. The doubts about his commitment started before his tragedy in December 2015 too. I think this is around the fourth time he is pulled out of a squad and subsequently appeared for his club, which may just be coincidental, of course, but the fact remains that nobody knew of his absence for Wales until a social media post was picked up in the media. We still have had no clarification as to why he missed those games, something which, in this day and age, is incredibly unusual. MON outlined the reasons behind all other absentees to the media with lip service paid to Arter. We don't know of anyone's personal life or how anybody is coping. There was little, and still is little, sympathy for Steven Ireland even though not that that lad's head was all over the place, even before his missus miscarried, it is no coincidence that the best form of his career coincided with Sven getting him to see a psychiatrist, I don't see how the rules should be different for Arter. There has been and will be doubts over his commitment, they will probably continue until he plays more than 2 games in a row. He won't be the first or last either, as international football slips down the list of priorities.
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rolo
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It absolutely matters. How can going to Dubai with a group of footballers "help you get away from the heartache" in a way that going to Dublin with a group of footballers cant? In fact your original post said "get away with his family", so when it was pointed out to you he had in fact gone away with a group of footballers on a warm weather break, all you could manage was "exactly, what does it matter". Look its nice that you were moved by his story. We all empathise and sympathise and offer our sincere condolences. It was a sh*t situation. But it doesnt defend his (lack of) commitment. Edited by rolo - 19 Jun 2017 at 3:41pm |
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kearney304
Liam Brady Joined: 25 Feb 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1992 |
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Jesus - I can't believe I have to keep repeating myself. First of all, do you know Harry Arter? Because I certainly don't but from reading that story and where he was born etc I would highly doubt any of his best mates are in the Republic of Ireland squad. Your post says it all - "a group of footballers". He has been at Bournemouth since 2010. And reading his story his "best mates" were the ones that helped him through the tragedy, the same lads that would have been on that trip. No offence to the Irish boys but I know who I would prefer to chill with. All I could manage? The facts are there - if he is fit he plays. Where is the evidence that he is a bunk or not committed. Just because loudmouth knowitalls on here think they know everything about a persons private life. I think people need to relax a small bit. If MON / Keane didn't fancy him or had question marks over his commitment he would be out the gap. In fact the rest of the players wouldn't want him near the set up. Get a grip.
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rolo
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First of all, do you know MON and the Irish players? So how do you know what they think? Judging by McClean's comments before the Mexico game it sounds like he isnt overly happy with him, though no he didnt mention Arter by name, before u point that out. And he's outspoken. Others wouldnt comment. Edited by rolo - 19 Jun 2017 at 5:14pm |
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pre Madonna
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Martin O'Neill didn't seem too happy when being interviewed later on in the day from his flight to Dubai.
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Jaysus, are we still talking about this ? O'Neill could have made him come to Dublin to be looked at by the doctor, he didn't. O'Neill could have flagged any issue to the press, he didn't. O'Neill could have dropped him from the next squad if he'd had an issue with him, he didn't.
Move along, nothing to see here.
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kearney304
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Signed a new 4 year deal with Bournemouth
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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McG
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Just catching up on MOTD. Watford attacking Bournemouth and the ball plays into Chalobah who's in a good position to take a strike. Harry Arter closing down on him but still too far away, as the ball comes to Chalobah... Arter shouts "have it" or words of that effect and Chalobah steps over it and arter clears it. Sneaky fecker Harry
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BabbsBalls
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Oldest trick in the book McG
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l hear you are a racist now, father ?
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McG
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Absolutely. I still do it but at EPL level
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It should be an indirect free-kick and a yellow card.
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That is the rule, or at least it was when I did some refereeing. I am fairly certain it hasn't changed. Just had a look online, this is from a website called "Ask the Ref". "the Laws state is that verbal distraction of an opponent during play or at a restart is a cautionable offence. The restart after the caution is an IDFK."
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Arry aint no cockney villain
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Bournemouth stadium is only 11,360.
The next lowest is Swansea with 20,972. I know they have been talking about a new stadium but they really need to get going. Only one team in the championship has a smaller stdium and that's Burton with about 7k. |
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Edited by djhegzy - 26 Aug 2017 at 1:56pm |
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