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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39815 |
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Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7702 |
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Hity missy turner uper i never seen this documentary. Must watch it.
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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39815 |
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I'd have loved if James McCarthy was in his squads pulling out ''James is a wishy washy turner upper. Always has an injury.''
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Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 9552 |
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He was making a general statement that he would not be happy to be out of the team (would you find it normal if any player said they would be happy to be out of team?). You have chosen to interpret that as Arter saying "I couldn't be ars*d turning up if I'm not starting"; grounded very clearly in your biased view of him. If anyone else said it it would be interpreted for what it is - a player stating their desire to be a starter, with no allusion to them not bothering to show up if they aren't. In other words, simply saying they would be disappointed not to play. Here are the facts: Arter has been lining out for Ireland since he was 17; he is still here at nearly 31 (despite numerous injury issues; family tragedy; nonsense from idiotic fans such as yourself; and outrageous abuse from members of our own management team) stating that he WANTS TO PLAY FOR IRELAND! Are these the actions of someone who "lacks commitment"? Are they f*ck.... It really must require an incredible suspension of disbelief on your part to maintain your view that he doesn't really care about representing Ireland, it's actually quite sad tbh.
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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He's clearly said if you don't want to pick me to play then pick other players for the squad instead and has repeatedly withdrawn himself from squads whenever the opportunity has presented. He repeatedly emphasises in the interview the fact that his club career is the real priority for him these days and implies that turning up for Ireland is merely a hindrance to this. If you can't hear this then its because you are refusing to allow yourself to.
You have such a distorted inverted sense of logic when it comes to Ireland footballers though it is like trying to argue with Saddam Hussain's minister of propaganda, there is absolutely no sense of objectivity. Based on his performances in an Ireland shirt, his age and form there is no justification for picking him in the team so given his attitude its a waste of time considering him for a squad place any more. We may be hard for players but we are not that hard up.
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Liam Brady Joined: 08 Oct 2019 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 2248 |
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Conan, that's a bit disingenuous.
What he said was he was on loan with Fulham and they were chasing promotion. It was a v important spell for him and the club. He had a good chat with Mick who said he wan't in his plans to really play so he said he'd be available if that changed and pick one of the younger lads who'll gain a lot more simply from being with the squad those days than would a lad at the other end of his career. That's it. It's pragmatic and mature. I don't think he'll be a guaranteed starter (far from it) for Kenny but he will likely be asked to come along so let's see how that pans out. |
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Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jul 2020 Location: Mallow Status: Online Points: 3377 |
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In fairness looking at the dross playing in midfield for us if I was a player of Arters ability and the manager said I wasn’t in his plans then could you blame him for being a bit spikey. McCarthy should have been sacked for playing Whelan against Switzerland 4 days after Georgia it was even worse than the shambolic team selection and if he did say that to Arter considering our lack of options that’s worse again.
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Jack Charlton Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 7120 |
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How exactly did he treat Whelan and Brady? Both were wracked with injuries and reaching the end of the road, when they were fit and could contribute, he played them. I never bought the Dunphy narrative with Brady in particular. Brady had been very poor under Hand post 82. Under Jack he was out best player in Euro 88 qualifying and would have started in midfield in Germany only for suspension and then a horrific injury. He wasn't the same player when he came back from that injury and Townsend was a better option. I don't agree with the substitution before half time against Germany but that's all. He'd actually retired from football before Italia 90 started. I understand how much a World Cup in Italy would have meant for him but should have have been in the squad other than for sentimental value like Stapleton? As for Whelan, he was integral until getting injured before Italia 90 and was unfortunately clearly not match fit over there. He was hugely injury prone after a bad injury the following year for the rest of his career. Still made the squad in 94 but wasn't fit again and Sheridan was a better option by that stage. There's a narrative out there that Charlton treated both appallingly and it was used as a stick to beat him with but it never stood up to scrutiny. Did he have a tactical approach set up to best suit their talents? No, but that's a different argument.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 9552 |
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Absolutely deluded and blinded by irrational hatred. If you really think someone who represents a country over the course of 14 years (and has to deal with all the other sh*te I've mentioned) is just in it for a bit of a kick around without any real desire, then you are literally too dimwitted to argue with. Arter has stated on numerous occasions now that he wants to play for Ireland (it's ridiculous he even has to in the first place) yet you are simply unable to accept these unequivocal statements of intent provided to you; opting instead to descend deeper and deeper into tinpot conspiracy theory in order to sustain your delusions. As I said, it's just plain sad.
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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I acknowledge the unequivocal statements of intent to find the time show up to play for us when he is awarded a place in the starting team. He has managed to turn up an entire 15 times after all in the last five and a half years since his first call up.
I am in awe of his sacrifice in the service of the nation, please don't imagine otherwise
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Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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Good video. I hadn't seen that for a while.
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Fulham promoted but Harry hasn’t featured in the playoffs. Wonder if he’ll return to Fulham next season.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 9552 |
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He's been injured. I'd say there's a decent chance he'll be kept on for his prior EPL experience.
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From what I recall (open to correction though) from his interview last week on OTB, he said he hadn't made the required amount of starts this season in which they would make an offer (as per the loan agreement).
Could see him back at Bournemouth.
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9537 |
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I'm sure his brother in law will make an offer for him.
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Someone said part of the loan was if they were promoted compulsory purchase.
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Jack Charlton Joined: 04 Aug 2020 Status: Offline Points: 6615 |
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I think Arter lost any enthusiasm he had for playing for the country when he wasn't picked for Euro 2016, and his commitment was already tenuous at that point. He must've pulled out of 8 or 9 squads for little or no reason since his debut. I remember him throwing a sulk when he didn't get on in Serbia. I suggest the reason MON selected Stephen Quinn to come on instead of him is because he noticed that Quinn is actually arsed.
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Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2965 |
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Didn't Arter get an injury leading up to Euros?
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