Away game against Northern Britain in November

stuffer wrote: TSLS wrote: If anyone is stupid enough to take a banner mocking the vote, to a ground which will be 90% Yes voters, then I can only assume you want a sore face. If you do, you'll not be dissapointed. what about a banner or chant of 'stand up if you voted Yes'

If anyone is stupid enough to take a banner mocking the vote, to a ground which will be 90% Yes voters, then I can only assume you want a sore face.

The scaremongering propaganda of the English won in the end. Scotland has the highest natural resources in the whole of Europe and pays more to the UK than it gets out of it. Of course it would have been better on its own. 

Like 1320 the loss on the 18th of Sept was worse than I had ever imagined. I couldn't watch TV or buy a paper for weeks.I would say its only in the last few weeks I've come round and relise that independence is still coming. 

horsebox wrote: Did you get your powers that Cameron said you would?

Romario wrote: How long realistically before another vote could arise 1320?

Nicola Sturgeon says she won't be setting dates but she says that it'll come at a time when the Scottish people decide they want it again, I presume she's meaning to see what happens with the 3 main things I've mentioned, the devolution vow, the EU vote and the outcome of the WM general elections. These things go against us then I feel we would have easily enough No voters changing to Yes getting Independence in the bag. Personally hope it's not to soon, got to give it time to win people around. I reckon before the debates it probably would've been about 70 percent No down to people not taking to much interest apart from seeing the pro Union headlines but after the debates and after people started engaging and finding out their own information the huge surge in people changing to yes was unreal to see. Just ashame it never become massive until the last 2 month, if we had more time after they debates I reckon we would've got there. Some of the reasons people gave for No right up until the 17th September were simply unbelievable as they were so misguided, most of the reasons I saw people say they were voting no for were actually reasons for Yes!!! Frightening.

Northern Britain, well yes we would be regardless of whether we were Indy or not. I've said many a time my views on Indy on this forum. I've mentioned how my 4 grandparents (3 proud Scots and a proud Irish/Scot) all voted NO. They done this as they were phoned up, approached in the street and had people (Labour/Tory campaigners/councillors) at their doorsteps telling them they'd lose their pension. I reckon 80 percent plus of them which were 18 percent of the registered electorate were set in stone Naws. They didn't have social media to see through it, they just had what they were told and what were printed in the papers (33 out of 39 in Scotland are London based and massively pro Union). The other big Nos were people who classed themselves as British and seen Scotland not as a country but the UK as their country, they thought the way things are were better and didn't want any change (tiny amount with a lot of English in that) Sevco fans (knew ALOT of these types, EMBARASSING I know) and people who were threatened by their companies as the companies didn't want any worries over currency etc (again knew quite a few personally who were like this). The majority of No voters (as polls show) were people who wanted change, but wanted full devolution to. Every farmer and fisher in Scotland was nearly a no to it seemed with the threat of not getting EU membership not resolved by the UK government, they could've asked the EU if we would get it but decided not to, as if the EU said it wouldn't be a bother then it's likely these industries would've been Yes instead.

Now since the vote the SNP now has 84k members (of which I am one) and many people are slowy starting to change their mind after they've realised that they seem to have been sold a lie with the devolution vow. Add this to the whole EU argument (Scotland will vote to stay in but the UK as a whole may vote to come out) which could get thousands of business on the Yes side and the fact the next government could be a Tory/UKIP coalition as Labour slowly seem to be dying (looks like they're deed here the noo anyway)

We WILL get it one day. So it's not totally true saying we didn't want to become a country as people's reasons for voting had nothing to do with that. I was raw and pissed off to the extreme after it (never slept for 60 hours) but after the dust has settled I've realised this is the beginning of something huge tonight. I'm just home from a conference in Dundee with Nicola Sturgeon and she's put the fire back into our bellies to get going again.

C'mon the Scots and c'mon the YES.

Edited by 1320Lichtie - 07 Nov 2014 at 10:37pm

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davekoolhill wrote: How about a banner with images of Aiden and James on it saying: You take the high road, & I'll take the low road,  & we'll play for Ireland together!  A little cheesy :)