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I'd add:

Idah - hopefully gets more games and gets closer to an automatic starter;

Smallbone - gets back fit and into So'ton's thoughts as was looking promising last season;

Obafemi - tough one, seems way off now and may need a loan to get some form and confidence back.




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Who's the 'new signing' they showed sitting in the stands? commentator mentioned Portsmouth......is he our Jack Grealish
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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Who's the 'new signing' they showed sitting in the stands? commentator mentioned Portsmouth......is he our Jack Grealish

That was Portsmouth's Marcus Harness.
Seems a good player for them at that level but no, he's no Jack!
He may make the step up to Championship level but that's yet to happen so nothing to get overly excited about.

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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Who's the 'new signing' they showed sitting in the stands? commentator mentioned Portsmouth......is he our Jack Grealish


That was Portsmouth's Marcus Harness.
Seems a good player for them at that level but no, he's no Jack!
He may make the step up to Championship level but that's yet to happen so nothing to get overly excited about.




Was tongue in cheek, if he's 'declaring' for Ireland he's clearly not about to breakthrough at a Liverpool or Man City ...........or Villa for that matter
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He has already played in the Championship for Burton. He and Curtis are good enough for that level.
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Great to see young Andrew Omobamidele making the bench today fior Norwich . Looks a great prospect

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aaron drinan playing for ipswich again after injury
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michael o connor cancelled his contract with ross county without playing a game, is there some attitude issue with him?
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Originally posted by Four-Four-Two Four-Four-Two wrote:

michael o connor cancelled his contract with ross county without playing a game, is there some attitude issue with him?
Serious attitude problems, the brother seems to be the same. Both we’re fairly underwhelming at Harps.
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Bit of a wild boy. There was a story about a stolen car when he was on trial with Burnley a few years ago, don't know all the details, but he's been round quite a few clubs for a young lad and even threatened to defect to NI when he was at Linfield. The brother Ciaran seems more settled these days and has been doing well at Glentoran.
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glen mc auley agreed a deal with shelbourne, he is working his way through the dublin clubs at a rate of knots

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Evan Ferguson, the kid is going to the very top.
Be interesting to see if he’s allowed move to Brighton with the new rule preventing English clubs signing u18s post brexit as he’s already agreed to move there and is still only 16.
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I presume since it’s been finalised it will be fine yeah? 

In future if we can do it properly this will actually benefit Irish soccer/LOI in that a good Irish club can hold an Evan Ferguson until 18 and get to the stage they can start getting transfer fees off English clubs for young talents like him. 

What do people think on this proposed rule? Or will the FAI in typical Irish fashion kick up stink and instead of innovating and using it as an opportunity demand “we want our players going to England at 16” cause it’s easier for them/requires less critical thinking.
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

I presume since it’s been finalised it will be fine yeah? 

In future if we can do it properly this will actually benefit Irish soccer/LOI in that a good Irish club can hold an Evan Ferguson until 18 and get to the stage they can start getting transfer fees off English clubs for young talents like him. 

What do people think on this proposed rule? Or will the FAI in typical Irish fashion kick up stink and instead of innovating and using it as an opportunity demand “we want our players going to England at 16” cause it’s easier for them/requires less critical thinking.

It could go a couple of ways I suppose, a big opportunity for our LoI clubs to hold onto players a bit longer and hopefully start commanding bigger fees for the lads who do go over. Also should mean less lads going over and returning home as 'failures' at 19/20 which might mean better standard of player in the league of Ireland. 

On the other hand right now there are not many clubs around the country who have set ups comparable to what these lads would get in England and without investment in coaching and facilities it could mean that we are producing lower quality players without some players getting top class coaching in England.

It will be interesting to see what happens, FAI will need to capitalize on it in order for this to turn into a positive. I wonder will we start seeing more young lads going further afield?
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:


What do people think on this proposed rule?

It’s a great rule - and should have always been the case. 15/16 is too young for kids to go over to England imo.

I remember John o sheas Mam wouldn’t let him go to united until he completed his leaving cert. Proper order.

Roy Keane, Paul McGrath - more recently Coleman, Doyle, Hunt, Murphy, Stevens, Horgan, fahey (before second spell), Maguire - among others - did them no harm at all going over a bit older or playing in the league of Ireland before going over. 

Would prefer if it coincided with league of Ireland clubs investing in proper academies and academy facilities (like rovers) - but bottom line is I believe that it can benefit them going over when a bit more mature - and certainly first team competitive football also benefits them before going over.
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Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

I presume since it’s been finalised it will be fine yeah? 

In future if we can do it properly this will actually benefit Irish soccer/LOI in that a good Irish club can hold an Evan Ferguson until 18 and get to the stage they can start getting transfer fees off English clubs for young talents like him. 

What do people think on this proposed rule? Or will the FAI in typical Irish fashion kick up stink and instead of innovating and using it as an opportunity demand “we want our players going to England at 16” cause it’s easier for them/requires less critical thinking.

It could go a couple of ways I suppose, a big opportunity for our LoI clubs to hold onto players a bit longer and hopefully start commanding bigger fees for the lads who do go over. Also should mean less lads going over and returning home as 'failures' at 19/20 which might mean better standard of player in the league of Ireland. 

On the other hand right now there are not many clubs around the country who have set ups comparable to what these lads would get in England and without investment in coaching and facilities it could mean that we are producing lower quality players without some players getting top class coaching in England.

It will be interesting to see what happens, FAI will need to capitalize on it in order for this to turn into a positive. I wonder will we start seeing more young lads going further afield?

Since the news broke over the last couple of days, it's been noticeable that figures like Will Clarke and Shane Supple are quite outspoken about how we're not ready to take advantage of this at the moment.

It could be a big opportunity, but would require clubs to get their sh*t together, along with massive government investment, both of which are unlikely.
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