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England looking to snatch Okoflex back according to reports

https://punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/england-reportedly-keen-to-persuade-irish-prospect-to-switch-allegiance/
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You lost me at "punditarena".
Same reporter has claimed twice in the last six months that Ryan Johansson's international allegiance was going to be settled in the next few days
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

You lost me at "punditarena".
Same reporter has claimed twice in the last six months that Ryan Johansson's international allegiance was going to be settled in the next few days

That's James McCleans mate
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Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

England looking to snatch Okoflex back according to reports

https://punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/england-reportedly-keen-to-persuade-irish-prospect-to-switch-allegiance/

He isn’t eligible for England. 
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

You lost me at "punditarena".
Same reporter has claimed twice in the last six months that Ryan Johansson's international allegiance was going to be settled in the next few days
 
Yeah PunditArena tends to be, for the most part, populous click-bate nonsense. Hence why it seems to be the favoured outlet for yer man MacKenna to unleash the majority of his stuff.
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

You lost me at "punditarena".
Same reporter has claimed twice in the last six months that Ryan Johansson's international allegiance was going to be settled in the next few days


Punditarena aren't the only ones carrying it though,
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

England looking to snatch Okoflex back according to reports

https://punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/england-reportedly-keen-to-persuade-irish-prospect-to-switch-allegiance/


He isn’t eligible for England. 


Maybe on paper he's not, but the bigger nations tend to get what they want in these circumstances
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Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

You lost me at "punditarena".
Same reporter has claimed twice in the last six months that Ryan Johansson's international allegiance was going to be settled in the next few days


Punditarena aren't the only ones carrying it though,
All reports seems to refer to one report in the telegraph, which is behind a paywall
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Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Howdo Howdo wrote:

England looking to snatch Okoflex back according to reports

https://punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/england-reportedly-keen-to-persuade-irish-prospect-to-switch-allegiance/


He isn’t eligible for England. 


Maybe on paper he's not, but the bigger nations tend to get what they want in these circumstances
Pure crap that is. They are tightening up on these rules if anything going by Ryan Johanssom case. He didn’t live in the country for long enough to qualify for them. If it is the case he played for us first before going to them and back again to us.
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Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Pure crap that is. They are tightening up on these rules if anything going by Ryan Johanssom case. He didn’t live in the country for long enough to qualify for them. If it is the case he played for us first before going to them and back again to us.

He has only played competitively for us at any level (U19).  All his caps at England U16 and U17 were friendlies, so don't count.
If he accepts a call-up for England U21 (or U19 next term) and plays a competitive match, that's it - he would then be tied to England as he would have done his one and only switch.
So the ball is fully in his court and we should leave him to it until such a time as that situation happens.
He is only a reserve player in Scotland, so is hardly setting the world on fire...for now!
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Pure crap that is. They are tightening up on these rules if anything going by Ryan Johanssom case. He didn’t live in the country for long enough to qualify for them. If it is the case he played for us first before going to them and back again to us.

He has only played competitively for us at any level (U19).  All his caps at England U16 and U17 were friendlies, so don't count.
If he accepts a call-up for England U21 (or U19 next term) and plays a competitive match, that's it - he would then be tied to England as he would have done his one and only switch.
So the ball is fully in his court and we should leave him to it until such a time as that situation happens.
He is only a reserve player in Scotland, so is hardly setting the world on fire...for now!
He only played friendlies because he doesn’t qualify for them it’s as simple as that. He only lived there for just over 4 years and needs 5 to qualify for them.
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Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

He only played friendlies because he doesn’t qualify for them it’s as simple as that. He only lived there for just over 4 years and needs 5 to qualify for them.

Further to that, the FIFA rules state, regarding nationalisation:

Any player who refers to art. 5 par. 1[note 1] to assumes a new nationality and who has not played international football [in a match (either in full or in part) in an official competition of any category or any type of football] shall be eligible to play for the new representative team only if he fulfils one of the following conditions:

a) He was born on the territory of the relevant association;
b) His biological mother or biological father was born on the territory of the relevant association;
c) His grandmother or grandfather was born on the territory of the relevant association;

d) He has lived continuously for at least five years after reaching the age of 18 on the territory of the relevant association.

— FIFA.com



So I fail to see any way he could be eligible for England, as he has no ancestral link and residency is a non-issue...at least for a good few years.





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I think the five year post 18 regulation is frequently bypassed as there are countless examples of European teams as a whole with several young players born abroad who have been capped before they reached 23. Okoflex may well fulfil the five year education criteria the home nations have but I think its more complicated than that as it can take a lot longer to acquire a UK passport even if he did so which he would also need to compete. I suspect that is why he has switched back to being Irish as he had shown no interest to represent us ahead of England the last couple of years.
Anyway Nigeria would likely be more of a threat for him switching , he's certainly been quoted referring to them as 'my country' Odupeko and Sotana I think in similar situation.
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In fairness to the lad in PunditArena, he does do a bit of research that is missing from other sources, and is good for players who are not (yet) high profile.

Here's a recent article about a Joszef Keavney, young striker just getting his career back on track after injuries.  Plays with AEC Larnaca in the Europa League and Cyprus - good to see:
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If Okoflex is eligible for England (it's still not clear) then I'd say he's a big flight risk. I don't get the sense he's so tied to his Irishness that he'd be against going for the higher profile option of England.
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You're nationality, as interchangeable as a hairstyle and can be based on how you're feeling that day.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

You're nationality, as interchangeable as a hairstyle and can be based on how you're feeling that day.

It has nothing to do with how they feel but it has everything to do with potential future earnings.
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