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PaddyDaCulchie
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 2:01pm |
Mr. Snrub wrote:
Missy wrote:
Loads of Irish nationals have used the provincial set up in 2 thirds of Ulster to play for Ireland. The reason he hate James is that he is an "uppity Taig" who does not know his place. thing players who choose Ireland over 2 thirds of a province I'd that they don't yo yo back and forth like young Dembele between England and Scotland. Oko-Flex is doing likewise with Ireland and England Do you believe James or Duffy think that they are Brits. |
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Did they think they were British when they represented a British team at underage level and stood for GSTQ?
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Missy
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 2:16pm |
you made my point Northern Ireland like Scotland England and Wales are not countries they are provinces of Britain not countries. You dont even have Passports your not citizens your subjects of the crown. There should be a British team playing in Wembley.
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Territorial
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 2:29pm |
Mr. Snrub wrote:
Missy wrote:
Loads of Irish nationals have used the provincial set up in 2 thirds of Ulster to play for Ireland. The reason he hate James is that he is an "uppity Taig" who does not know his place. thing players who choose Ireland over 2 thirds of a province I'd that they don't yo yo back and forth like young Dembele between England and Scotland. Oko-Flex is doing likewise with Ireland and England Do you believe James or Duffy think that they are Brits. |
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Sa Ghaeilge?
Anyhow the point is, James "Hates the f**kin Queen" McClean was offered a call-up for a senior, competitive NI international by Nigel Worthington, which he accepted.
And had Sunderland not swooped to sign him from Derry in the interim between call-up and game, he would have been tied to us. (I believe Niall Quinn had a word in his ear, to remind him that he was a Republican from the Creggan, which James had somehow forgotten).
Which was as lucky an escape for our team as for him!
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JohnSwift
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 2:56pm |
Left foot wrote:
Theres no real recipe for your 'irishness' or any other nationality really anymore.
Granny rule players have been interchangeable in choosing ireland or england for example
Players with irish parents seem more riable in choosing ireland over england however players like Harry Kane, whos parents are irish I believe has felt more english. (I struggle to imagine kane senior cheering for his son in an England kit and being an Irishman very strange, and I've lived in england since I was 8)
Obefemi, although born in ireland but has never really lived there, and with parents being both Nigerian born, feels irish... I'm really pleased he chose ireland as he's got really good potential but how he feels irish I really dont know... (to be clear, I'm not trying to question obefemi's right to be irish, I 100% support his right as he's a born Irishman but his ties to ireland seem more 'on paper' rather than anything else) |
Harry Kane’s Irish connection is through his grandparents from Galway. Some Irish media outlets have reported that his father was Irish, but Kane confirmed earlier this year that his connection was through his grandparents.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 3:02pm |
JohnSwift wrote:
Left foot wrote:
Theres no real recipe for your 'irishness' or any other nationality really anymore.
Granny rule players have been interchangeable in choosing ireland or england for example
Players with irish parents seem more riable in choosing ireland over england however players like Harry Kane, whos parents are irish I believe has felt more english. (I struggle to imagine kane senior cheering for his son in an England kit and being an Irishman very strange, and I've lived in england since I was 8)
Obefemi, although born in ireland but has never really lived there, and with parents being both Nigerian born, feels irish... I'm really pleased he chose ireland as he's got really good potential but how he feels irish I really dont know... (to be clear, I'm not trying to question obefemi's right to be irish, I 100% support his right as he's a born Irishman but his ties to ireland seem more 'on paper' rather than anything else) |
Harry Kane’s Irish connection is through his grandparents from Galway. Some Irish media outlets have reported that his father was Irish, but Kane confirmed earlier this year that his connection was through his grandparents. |
Grandparents plural?
If his grandparents are Irish, how is their son a different nationality?
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 3:07pm |
Tony Cousins wrote:
JohnSwift wrote:
Left foot wrote:
Theres no real recipe for your 'irishness' or any other nationality really anymore.
Granny rule players have been interchangeable in choosing ireland or england for example
Players with irish parents seem more riable in choosing ireland over england however players like Harry Kane, whos parents are irish I believe has felt more english. (I struggle to imagine kane senior cheering for his son in an England kit and being an Irishman very strange, and I've lived in england since I was 8)
Obefemi, although born in ireland but has never really lived there, and with parents being both Nigerian born, feels irish... I'm really pleased he chose ireland as he's got really good potential but how he feels irish I really dont know... (to be clear, I'm not trying to question obefemi's right to be irish, I 100% support his right as he's a born Irishman but his ties to ireland seem more 'on paper' rather than anything else) |
Harry Kane’s Irish connection is through his grandparents from Galway. Some Irish media outlets have reported that his father was Irish, but Kane confirmed earlier this year that his connection was through his grandparents. |
Grandparents plural?
If his grandparents are Irish, how is their son a different nationality?
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Yes, both grandparents. Here's one article from earlier this year where Harry refers to his "nana and grandad":
However, that wouldn't mean that their English-born son (Harry's Dad) considers himself to be the same nationality.
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PaddyDaCulchie
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 3:17pm |
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/the-irish-lionheart-defending-england-1.270762
Very old article but Martin Keown speaks very well about his Irish and English identities. Speaks about lot of issues mentioned above.
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Denis Irwin
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 3:55pm |
Glen McAuley signing for Bohs
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn
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Territorial
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 3:59pm |
I can't access the article myself, but I believe Martin's dad is from Fermanagh. So that since it became apparent that his son Niall wasn't likely to make it with the senior ROI team, both of them are open to representing NI:
And Martin himself does a lot of ambassadorial work for the IFA, I think through his tie-in with McDonalds?
Decent fella - for a Gooner!
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PaddyDaCulchie
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 4:09pm |
copy and past the link, it's worth the read. Martin on about being Irish, adopting English culture as he grew up, his relatives not understanding how his father let him play for England. Its interesting article
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 5:15pm |
DalyerRegular wrote:
Fozz wrote:
Howdo wrote:
Andrew00 wrote:
Afolabi is reported to be in line for his Celtic debut against Hamilton on Wednesday after impressing Neil Lennon in training.
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Great stuff...that won't do his chances any harm. Had Connell and O'Connor starting there too with Okoflex and Coffey coming on off the bench. Celtic Reserves are where the young Irish currently hang out and hopefully that Afolabi rumour is true and he's the first to break out. | Thomas Caffrey still there aswell? |
Afolabi not in squad
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 6:45pm |
Territorial wrote:
Mr. Snrub wrote:
Missy wrote:
Loads of Irish nationals have used the provincial set up in 2 thirds of Ulster to play for Ireland. The reason he hate James is that he is an "uppity Taig" who does not know his place. thing players who choose Ireland over 2 thirds of a province I'd that they don't yo yo back and forth like young Dembele between England and Scotland. Oko-Flex is doing likewise with Ireland and England Do you believe James or Duffy think that they are Brits. |
In English, please.......
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Sa Ghaeilge?
Anyhow the point is, James "Hates the f**kin Queen" McClean was offered a call-up for a senior, competitive NI international by Nigel Worthington, which he accepted.
And had Sunderland not swooped to sign him from Derry in the interim between call-up and game, he would have been tied to us. (I believe Niall Quinn had a word in his ear, to remind him that he was a Republican from the Creggan, which James had somehow forgotten).
Which was as lucky an escape for our team as for him!
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You believe incorrectly. McLean spoke to Quinn to contact the FAI on his behalf
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Territorial
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 7:46pm |
tetsujin1979 wrote:
Territorial wrote:
Mr. Snrub wrote:
Missy wrote:
Loads of Irish nationals have used the provincial set up in 2 thirds of Ulster to play for Ireland. The reason he hate James is that he is an "uppity Taig" who does not know his place. thing players who choose Ireland over 2 thirds of a province I'd that they don't yo yo back and forth like young Dembele between England and Scotland. Oko-Flex is doing likewise with Ireland and England Do you believe James or Duffy think that they are Brits. |
In English, please.......
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Sa Ghaeilge?
Anyhow the point is, James "Hates the f**kin Queen" McClean was offered a call-up for a senior, competitive NI international by Nigel Worthington, which he accepted.
And had Sunderland not swooped to sign him from Derry in the interim between call-up and game, he would have been tied to us. (I believe Niall Quinn had a word in his ear, to remind him that he was a Republican from the Creggan, which James had somehow forgotten).
Which was as lucky an escape for our team as for him!
| You believe incorrectly. McLean spoke to Quinn to contact the FAI on his behalf
| Whatever the mechanism, the fact remains that after representing NI at under-age level several times, McClean (two c's btw) accepted his call up to a senior competitive fixture which would have tied him to us, before Sunderland signed him and he needed Quinn to make a phone call for him.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 8:30pm |
why just pick on James there are loads of others
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 8:34pm |
Territorial wrote:
tetsujin1979 wrote:
[QUOTE=Territorial][QUOTE=Mr. Snrub][QUOTE=Missy]L
| You believe incorrectly. McLean spoke to Quinn to contact the FAI on his behalf
Whatever the mechanism, the fact remains that after representing NI at under-age level several times, McClean (two c's btw) accepted his call up to a senior competitive fixture which would have tied him to us, before Sunderland signed him and he needed Quinn to make a phone call for him.
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You can have him back now if you'd like, we're finished with him....thanks for the lend
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 8:57pm |
Territorial wrote:
tetsujin1979 wrote:
Territorial wrote:
Mr. Snrub wrote:
Missy wrote:
Loads of Irish nationals have used the provincial set up in 2 thirds of Ulster to play for Ireland. The reason he hate James is that he is an "uppity Taig" who does not know his place. thing players who choose Ireland over 2 thirds of a province I'd that they don't yo yo back and forth like young Dembele between England and Scotland. Oko-Flex is doing likewise with Ireland and England Do you believe James or Duffy think that they are Brits. |
In English, please.......
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Sa Ghaeilge?
Anyhow the point is, James "Hates the f**kin Queen" McClean was offered a call-up for a senior, competitive NI international by Nigel Worthington, which he accepted.
And had Sunderland not swooped to sign him from Derry in the interim between call-up and game, he would have been tied to us. (I believe Niall Quinn had a word in his ear, to remind him that he was a Republican from the Creggan, which James had somehow forgotten).
Which was as lucky an escape for our team as for him!
| You believe incorrectly. McLean spoke to Quinn to contact the FAI on his behalf
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Whatever the mechanism, the fact remains that after representing NI at under-age level several times, McClean (two c's btw) accepted his call up to a senior competitive fixture which would have tied him to us, before Sunderland signed him and he needed Quinn to make a phone call for him.
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Posted: 03 Dec 2019 at 9:16pm |
Territorial wrote:
tetsujin1979 wrote:
Territorial wrote:
Mr. Snrub wrote:
Missy wrote:
Loads of Irish nationals have used the provincial set up in 2 thirds of Ulster to play for Ireland. The reason he hate James is that he is an "uppity Taig" who does not know his place. thing players who choose Ireland over 2 thirds of a province I'd that they don't yo yo back and forth like young Dembele between England and Scotland. Oko-Flex is doing likewise with Ireland and England Do you believe James or Duffy think that they are Brits. |
In English, please.......
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Sa Ghaeilge?
Anyhow the point is, James "Hates the f**kin Queen" McClean was offered a call-up for a senior, competitive NI international by Nigel Worthington, which he accepted.
And had Sunderland not swooped to sign him from Derry in the interim between call-up and game, he would have been tied to us. (I believe Niall Quinn had a word in his ear, to remind him that he was a Republican from the Creggan, which James had somehow forgotten).
Which was as lucky an escape for our team as for him!
| You believe incorrectly. McLean spoke to Quinn to contact the FAI on his behalf
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Whatever the mechanism, the fact remains that after representing NI at under-age level several times, McClean (two c's btw) accepted his call up to a senior competitive fixture which would have tied him to us, before Sunderland signed him and he needed Quinn to make a phone call for him.
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His presence in NI squads is irrelevant. Once it became evident that he could be good enough for the ROI, he was always going to accept a call-up. Niall McGinn, Paddy McCourt, Michel McGovern and plenty of other recent NI internationals would have made the same decision if they felt they were good enough, but they opted for the more pragmatic option. There's nothing wrong with that. As ROI fans, we know we've had our fair share of English-born players opt for us, as they realised they wouldn't get an England call-up and as such, it was a pragmatic decision.
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Posted: 04 Dec 2019 at 3:49am |
Lou Macari, what an absolute nutter and a pisstake.
Even if it were possible for Grealish to redeclare for us he can go f**k himself
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