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    Posted: 30 Jun 2014 at 8:16pm
Maybe so but I doubt many players in the WC see themselves as entertainers. If Ireland or Liechtenstein won the World Cup playing ugly I doubt many would complain. 
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Originally posted by danger here danger here wrote:

As much as I love technically beautiful football particularly from the 1970s the most interesting football games in my opinion are often the tactical cagey 0-0s or 1-0s in a high stakes game like last night. Two mortal teams fighting it out like a game of chess, where it's as much about mental strength as anything else. Both teams last night dogged it out to the point some of the Costa Ricans could barely move.

If you want entertainment go to the cinema. 




The history of association football and its fully coded rules was that it was set up to entertain workers on a Saturday afternoon after working in the morning.

So at its very core its a form of entertainment.
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As much as I love technically beautiful football particularly from the 1970s the most interesting football games in my opinion are often the tactical cagey 0-0s or 1-0s in a high stakes game like last night. Two mortal teams fighting it out like a game of chess, where it's as much about mental strength as anything else. Both teams last night dogged it out to the point some of the Costa Ricans could barely move.

If you want entertainment go to the cinema. 

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But I hope some lad on www.ybib.gr was not glad we were out and did not say FCK off Ireland on a forum otherwise I will be offended and put him on my list of enemies along with Tony.
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We were poison to watch in 2012 alright.
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Sorry that should read 2012.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

where did I say there was a wrong way to play football.
 
 

the clue is in the anti bit of anti-football LOL


They are playing anti football in my opinion but they are entitled to do it. I am not saying they should be forbidden. In my opinion its great that them and their negative tactics are out just like it was great when we got knocked out of 1990 and 2002 for many neutrals.   We played anti football in 1990 and not long after the rules changed and our tactics were never quite the same.
I agree with practically everything you've said on this Baldrick but I don't thnk we used negative tactics at all in 2002. I thought the McCarthy era was the most pleasing on the eye football we've played since I started watching Ireland.
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Greece do play some dross football but they do get the results - Effectively the Stoke City of the International scene. 

Ireland play dross football too but we're not getting the results atm, there's a difference.


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

where did I say there was a wrong way to play football.
 
 

the clue is in the anti bit of anti-football LOL


They are playing anti football in my opinion but they are entitled to do it. I am not saying they should be forbidden. In my opinion its great that them and their negative tactics are out just like it was great when we got knocked out of 1990 and 2002 for many neutrals.   We played anti football in 1990 and not long after the rules changed and our tactics were never quite the same.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Coleman who did I insult, and where did I say there was a wrong way to play football.

You like their style and I don't . personal preference really. I am glad they are out. Its ironic that their supporters should moan about being unlucky as they win many games having not dominating them. Nobody has a divine right to win a football matches but I am not going to have sympathy for a team that gets beaten at their own game esp when it was against ten men.

There a couple of offensive posts in this thread where you have used expletives towards Greece. If that language was used towards us we would be up in arms and rightly so.

The tone and the comments themsleves - "ruining football for years" - clearly indicate a dislike for the way they play hence providing evidential material to suggest you believe the game should be played in a particular way.

I have no preference how the game should be played. I enjoy all styles of play, however, I do get a buzz when the underdog upsurps a team perceived as superior usually through the use of a particular set of tactics. In the case of Greece their tactic is essentially defensive.

I'm willing to leave it there. I look forward to seeing how Costa Rica plan to deal with the Dutch and vice versa. I make no bones about it...I am firmly in the under dog camp. Vamos Costa Rica!


I could not give a flying sh*te if someone on a Greek forum when we were a joke at the Euros and said FCK off Ireland as you are poison to watch. In fact it would be refreshing that the usual patronising rubbish we did get from many fans if you are great fans etc etc.

Who did I offend by the way if they are offensive posts. Or is it an imaginary offence. You are getting offended hypothetically on behalf of Greek fans.

I am a neutral. I like to see entertaining games. The Greeks do not entertain me, when they play they tend to make the games boring for me. Hence when they get knocked out I am delighted. If I was not Irish I would think the same about us. I would not be offended if anybody was delighted that Ireland were knocked out of Italia 90 or the last Euros. We tend to be much to watch too. Although 2002 was different.,

Greece tend to ruin games for thie viewer and as a result I am delighted they are out. Good enough for them.

It can't be all about the result and then when the result foes not go their way look for sympathy.


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But for a mixture of poor finishing,poor final ball and some great saves by Navas,Greece would have progressed comfortably.They were easily the better team,even before the sending off.So I'd also have sympathy for them.The game is all about different styles and teams maximising the players they have.Yes,Greece could have tried to play a high intensity,attacking game but with the players they have(a lot of them over 30)this would never have suited them.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

where did I say there was a wrong way to play football.
 
 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Coleman who did I insult, and where did I say there was a wrong way to play football.

You like their style and I don't . personal preference really. I am glad they are out. Its ironic that their supporters should moan about being unlucky as they win many games having not dominating them. Nobody has a divine right to win a football matches but I am not going to have sympathy for a team that gets beaten at their own game esp when it was against ten men.

There a couple of offensive posts in this thread where you have used expletives towards Greece. If that language was used towards us we would be up in arms and rightly so.

The tone and the comments themsleves - "ruining football for years" - clearly indicate a dislike for the way they play hence providing evidential material to suggest you believe the game should be played in a particular way.

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I'm willing to leave it there. I look forward to seeing how Costa Rica plan to deal with the Dutch and vice versa. I make no bones about it...I am firmly in the under dog camp. Vamos Costa Rica!
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Couldnt bring myself to watch the match but delighted for Costa Rica.... 

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Coleman who did I insult, and where did I say there was a wrong way to play football.

You like their style and I don't . personal preference really. I am glad they are out. Its ironic that their supporters should moan about being unlucky as they win many games having not dominating them. Nobody has a divine right to win a football matches but I am not going to have sympathy for a team that gets beaten at their own game esp when it was against ten men.



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Originally posted by Curiousdub Curiousdub wrote:

 
A few players where struggling to run at the end of extra time.

People where talking about how the extra time could impact how brazil get on against Colombia. It will be much worse for Costa Rica.

Heard this said often last night. I can't see how this will make that much difference 5 days later.
Both sides should have recovered sufficiently.
If anything, the Costa Ricans are more likely to be better suited to the climatic conditions than the Dutch and will have a slight advantage.
 
Originally posted by Landon Donovan Landon Donovan wrote:

4 pens pretty much down the middle. A bit witch-crafty for my liking

I keep saying this. Why don't keepers stand in the middle till the penalty is kicked. They're bound to save maybe 2 or so out  of 5.



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