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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Yeah, fella in work, a Forest fan, always refers to him as such.
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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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He'll never be a prolific goalscorer but his all round play has been excellent at Premier league level. He's playing regularly for a team that are currently fifth in the Premier league while Notts Forest are eighth in the Championship so Forest fans are probably not best placed to sl*g him off.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 34863 |
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Not sl*gging him off - but we have another good player who can't score goals.
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Mcgoldrick seems to be our best option up front, he's not going to get many goals but his all round performances have been pretty good, for ireland and sheffield. It would be good to see mcgoldrick and Connelly play as a front pair.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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Well clearly he can score goals, he has a pretty good goalscoring record at Championship level. He's been very unlucky so far this season, having goals ruled out for marginal offsides, being denied by brilliant saves, etc. I think once he gets 1 he'll start to add a few more. He's not going to be a goal machine at this level but I do think he's capable of 6-8 a season when he gets going.
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We're decent enough..
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I really like the guy, he has won me over, but he doesn’t. It’s 1 in 4 at best.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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He averaged a goal every 260 minutes for Ipswich (1 in every 2.9 games); and a goal every 215 minutes for Sheffield United last season (1 every 2.4 games). So yeah, you're wrong.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Online Points: 34863 |
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He has scored 1 goal in 16 games this season including Ireland games.
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It was far across the sea,
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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thebronze14
Jack Charlton Derry City Til I Die Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Location: Dublin/Donegal Status: Offline Points: 7173 |
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Saints fans called him that early in his career
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25085 |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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Nice selective mathematics but his total championship record is 81 goals in 357 appearances which would make it one goal per 4.407 matches in so not exactly prolific even by Shane Long standards. He's 32 now as well (and still to score a Premier league goal) so a little late for all that to change.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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Whats selective about it? That's his Championship record from 2014-19 (ie the time he's been available to us). Judging goals based on appearances is an inferior measure to goals per minute, and using that more accurate measure McGoldricks record is much better than Premadonna's stated "best case scenario" of 1 in 4.
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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Players get subbed off all the time, especially if they are a striker and they are not performing, you're just trying to manipulate the stats to make if sound like he scores more goals than he does. Top strikers don't need to resort to splitting hairs like that to try and justify themselves. Mcgoldrick is a ten a season man in the championship and looks at best half that in the Prem. You can see from watching him yesterday he doesn't have a natural finisher technique or instinct, snatched badly at shots and crosses that came his way. His heading technique is a lot better. His virtue is in linking up and bring others in to play but that puts a lot of pressure on midfielders or wingers to step up and hit the net to compensate, which they will at Sheffield but not for Ireland. It is putting a huge amount of pressure on Hourihane to deliver and as of yet he's not been able to. That just leaves us dependent on defenders for goals, hence the feeble scoring record we are lumbered with. Still the best option up front we have currently all the same which says much about why we have no hope of scoring more than once against professional opposition.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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How dense do you have to be to not understand that judging a player on a goals to minute ratio examines their performance on a more precise basis than goals to games ratio? Any sort of understanding of basic statistics would confirm that. Good stats are derived from as precise information as possible;"1 game" is not a precise basis to judge something on because 1 game ranges from 0-90+ minutes. Obviously judging based on those minutes themselves is far more enlightening. If you're comparing two players for example, one who has 4 goals in 10 games and another who has 2 in 10, you might easily come to the conclusion that striker A is twice as prolific as striker B. If you did a little deeper though and see that it's taken striker A 900 minutes to score those 4 goals, whereas striker B only needed 100 to get his 2, then obviously that initial conclusion would need to be re-evaluated...
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JoxerDaly
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Hes not a striker though is he, he plays in the wes role just behind a 9, and he has been very good at that for Sheffiled this season.
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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You're moving the goal post for every player though doing that, you can't just make it a per minute evaluation and then claim that is a less than 3 per game basis as you'd then have to do that for every other player he is being compared to as they are all getting subbed on and off at different times so either way its the same whether you judge per minute or per game relative to other strikers he is equally unprolific in comparison so its just splitting hairs.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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What goalposts am I moving, exactly? I'm not the one who's set down any goalposts. The claim was made that McGoldrick's Championship record is "1 in 4 at best" emphasis on "at best". I've provided evidence that it's actually quite a bit better than that, "at best".
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