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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39480 |
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Keane would be like a dark cloud in the dressing room. A bit like me on this forum.
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Keane will most likely go to Stoke with MoN, if the latter leaves! |
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Why did MoN turn down The Toffees, which by any standards was a more attractive proposition than Stoke?
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Toffees or Potters. Wow
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He would be a very strange choice IMO. Is there any evidence he is a better manager than MON or even his equal? It's noticeable that even the Stoke fans who are keen enough on O'Neill have no interest in Keane whatsoever.
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Maccatacca
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Let’s be honest, we’re in for a dark few years.
The FAI won’t make the right appointment in the next few days, and whoever comes in will ultimately be the wrong choice. We’re better off without MON, but what will the FAI replace him with? God only knows. I’ve personally given up on the next two major tournaments. |
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deise316
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Might be a slightly interesting point here, or one that lads think they can dismiss easily, but when it comes to selecting a new manager, just who exactly has the requisite influence, or will make the final call ?? When Trap was appointed, the FAI decided after Stan to send a 3 man committee around the UK to interview who or what they thought were suitable candidates, Houghton, Don Givens & Don Howe fulfilled the role as FAI interviewers/headhunters and duly interviewed whoever they thought a likely candidate, but only interviewed Trap after a suggestion by Eddie Jordan/Denis O'Brien to JD/FAI and that only after Liam Brady had already sussed Trap out as regards his willingness to take the job. By the time the 3 buckos met him, it was a rubberstamp job. No such selection process existed for MON, it was Dermot Desmond who suggested him to the FAI and initially made contact, by the time his appointment actually happened, it too was a rubberstamp effort. Nay offence to Jordan, O'Brien or Desmond, all wealthy and successful people in their own respective fields, but would ya presume any of them know much more about football than the average poster on here ?? (which is quite a low bar) Would any of them (as far as we know of them) have an opinion on Mick McCarthy, Lee Johnson, Slaven Bilic, Dave O'Leary, Roy Keane, Stephen Kenny, Marcelo Bielsa or anyone else you care to mention ?? Would JD/FAI have the balls to disagree with any of them, particularly the one that is financing maybe 3/4 of the manager's salary, if one of them were to suggest an ''ideal'' replacement?? Do JD/FAI have an opinion on the type of football we should be playing, or is it just a case of (as with the Stan replacement committee) finding someone, anyone, that can't be directly linked to JD as Stan was (despite his best efforts) ?? We can do this subject to death, and to be fair to the FAI, they want the best for us even if only from their financial point of view & qualifying for Euro 2020, but even if MON fcuks off, just from the evidence of the last 2 appointments, it seems that any type of strategic vision has little to do with it, the next appointment may be some compromise between the suggestion of well intentioned wealthy lads and a 'name' manager whose 'name' is big enough to sell a certain amount of season tickets. |
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It’s grand. We will have Tony Laughlin in too |
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Three months ago you were certain we would be going to Russia. Nobody could convince you otherwise. Now we won’t qualify for the next Euro with 24 teams going. Some turnaround in the space of three months. |
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Excellent post Deise. O Neill even mentioned season ticket sales when talking about his new contract which I found totally bizarre.
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Good summary. Think Young is one of O'Neill's go to guys when he wants a story out there....
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/premier-league/difference-of-opinion-between-father-and-son-an-unsigned-contract-and-a-welcome-to-stoke-video-you-will-never-see-36485338.html |
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We should have been going to Russia, we had one foot and the suitcases on the plane at 1-0 vs Denmark. But O’Neill blew it, and has spent the past two months whoring himself around to any club that will have a look at him. Realistically, we’re currently managerless (as O’Neill isn’t even watching irish players at games at the moment). We’ve a few friendlies coming up, with complete disarray off the pitch. Will we even have a permanent manager for those games? And if not, what will even be learnt by playing Turkey and France with a caretaker manager. The last two/three months should have been spent by the FAI, and MON either parting ways, or sorting out a new contract with a clear plan. This hasn’t happened, and the options to replace MON are equally as frightening as him staying on. As for a 24 team EURO’s, there are nights when we are easily amongst the best 24 teams in Europe, but, will Brian Kerr, Mick McCarthy etc etc, have us playing well enough consistently to come second in a group? I have my doubts. |
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Good article. But MON will nit be in the dugout at Old Trafford tomorrow night even if he takes the job. He will wash his hands of that game and be in the stands and knows a tanking is possible. I still don't think he will accept the Stoke job after publicly being made their 2nd choice. |
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ther was a selection committee before the appointment of MON. It was a rubberstamp job in the end but when you said there was no such selection process as before Trap got the job,, there was, it was nearly the exact same. Only the personell were different. Razor was on the interview panel again |
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FAI needs to pull the finger out. Doubtful anything will happen today but FAI should issue a public statement tomorrow clarifying the situation - ideally confirming contract offer has been withdrawn and they are looking for a new manager.
Presume they will likely leave a caretaker in charge for the two away friendlies and appoint a full time manager as late as possible for financial reasons but would be nice to see a full time manager appointed asap |
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Time To Get Behind Mick & The Team
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Don Givens step forward.
If MON leaves cue a statement from Stephen Ireland's pet rabbit saying how Stephen might be open to the idea of playing for Eire again under the new manager but they will have to visit him and sell him the project as Stephen likes to play with his toys when not playing for his club team, and would need something enticing for him to give that up. |
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