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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Incorrect, all of his time at Sunderland he played 4-4-1-1. Which is a bit of a problem considering we couldn't work that system against a team like Wales. Wingers play very old fashioned, none of the cut inside stuff Lone forward is not usually a target man type but a hold the ball type (Emile Heskey at his time at Villa or Bendtner at Sunderland) Doyle is probably the best candidate we have for that..
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Stillhuntinghenry
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O'neills management record makes him the best candidate ?? I beg to differ - dave o'leary's management record Leeds United 1998/9 - 4th EPL 1999/2000 - 3rd EPL SF UEFA Cup 2000/01 - 4th EPL SF Champions League 2001/2 - 5th EPL Aston Villa 2003/4 - 6th EPL 2004/5 - 10th EPL He's actually the most successful Irish manager that I can think of. |
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BohsinMunich
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Even Sven is in the running... this is a long list
www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/rep-of-ireland/next-permanent-manager |
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Garak
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I think MO'N would be a fairly safe choice, albeit slightly uninspiring.
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PhilliyK
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If he gets it then think I'll become the new Trapnoclue/Rainpaulo (without the abuse)
You can go down the route of getting a man motivator but did none of you learn the lesson of Trap, he was found out tactically in the international arena, MON would fail in the same manner only instead of picking up the away results he'd maybe win a few home qualifying games but fail miserably away from home, remind me again there of his away record in european competition How many goes in the champions league and how many times he get out of the group? And that was with one of the best strikers in europe at his disposal at the time, something this Irish squad certainly does not possess currently(an ageing Keane wont be able to carry him) All that is before you even look at his epl record in a league where tactics play a lesser part as opposed to physical attributes Any potential short list has to be based on the main quality first and foremost of getting results home and AWAY. Just hope the FAI once again avoid the media/public opinion and outcrys and sit down and thoroughly go through the strengths and weakness's of ALL potential candidates
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Sham96
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The so called journos in the know and Dunphy have jumped way ahead on this one. I was listening to BBC radio 5 earlier and the feeling in England is that O'Neill wantsone more go at managing a club side (even if it is a Championship team). Not surprised his odds have started to drift this evening.
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He has drifted from 8/11 out to 11/10 on paddy power. Brian Mcdermott on the other hand has gone from 10+ into 12/5
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ShamtheRam
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Would the whole Northern Ireland thing not deter anyone else including Martin from taking the job?
In my opinion he'd be mad to take because he's opening else up to a whole lot of trouble from the natives up in Norn Iron. I mean this has never been done before. The whole Celtic/Rangers thing is accepted as the norm in the country by now but lets face it lads nobody with this much history has crossed over to the Republic. Granted we've had Gibson, McClean, Duffy etc....switch over but this will be nothing compared to the trouble that will be experienced should O'Neill cross. At the end of the day he did spend his Northern Ireland days playing for Billy the Bigot!
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Fintan
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Doesn't bother me in the slightest that he played for NI and I don't think many ROI fans would be bothered about it either if he did a job.
I'd guess he wouldn't give two hoots about the grief he may or may not get from the walking dead element that supports OWC I'd put money on it that a fair few of the current NI players keep a very kean eye on our results and felt as dissappointed as we did last night and on Friday. |
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Stoked Up
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Trap's biggest failings were falling out with players, not trusting youth and not altering tactics home or away, insisting that virtually ALL of our players were technically not very proficient. O'Neill's sides were never exclusively hoofers. As recently evidenced by McClean and many more before, he's not afraid to place trust in SOME young players.
I acknowledge that he'll have to work with whatever players he's got, which may stunt his tactics, but he's adaptable. His record in the EPL with lesser lights is very good. Is that not what/where we are?
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Yet he won nothing, nor got sides to cup finals. O'Leary inherited George Graham's wonderfully constructed Leeds side and despite early promise, he ruined it, spending what was then a kings ransom and then failing to keep them in the CL places, which contributed hugely to that clubs demise and his own sacking. The CL SF was brilliant but he failed to build on that. At Villa, the decline accelerated in the next season, when they narrowly avoided relegation then he was fired. He was also fired out in the UAE, after more failings. No thanks. Edited by Stoked Up - 12 Sep 2013 at 1:43am |
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Peake
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O'Neill showed what he was all about during his spell at Villa, money money money. How will he fair under the obvious limited resources with the Ireland job?
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Are you on drugs lad?? |
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Honey Monster
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CH won't take it and I'd prefer MON either way. He is the best we can realistically hope for and we'd be crazy not to be delighted with his services. He'd bring the passion and pride back at the very least
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Edited by jinky - 12 Sep 2013 at 8:03am |
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Did O'Neill say a few years ago he'd like to manage us at some stage but felt it would be further down the line??
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O Neill would hopefully embrace the idea of northern footballers playing for their country with their southern brothers. FAI and senior management should actively and openly be going after northern lads from under 16 level to play for us as is their right. None of this nonsense of not aproaching players. A lad from Derry should b no different than a lad from cork and should be invited openly to underage squads if good enough
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