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Ray Houghton 
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Ireland play 4-4-2: 5 Major Tournaments Ireland play 4-5-1:  Ireland 0-4 Spain Ireland 1-6 Germany Ireland 0-3 Germany As you see, we're 4-4-2, launch it 40 yards up the pitch, heads. As far as we're concerned, it's far from finished. Now, where's the Ace of Base Cassette Tape again? |
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golden tiger 2013
Kevin Kilbane 
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Mcgeady couldn't play as a play-maker if his life depended on it, he has no football brain , he is just a brainless winger with a trick or two. Hoolohan is 31 is not even in the Norwich squad at the moment , he will be a league one player soon , forget about him . I have been hearing about McCarthy's potential to be a top class player for the past 3 years, when is he going to deliver on it in an Ireland jersey?.
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Robbie Keane
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So having the likes of Whelan, Keane, Irwin, Aldridge, O'Leary, Duff, Given, Houghton, Quinn etc in very good teams over the course of those 5 tournaments in which we qualified for had nothing to do with getting to them, it was all because we played 4-4-2. You really are clueless, no wonder 99% of posters on here don't take you seriously. 4-1-3-1-1, 4-2-3-1 or 4-2-2-1-1 with the right team picked isn't a bog standard 4-5-1, showing yourself up again, too easy. Stick to other sports, football clearly isn't your thing.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Ray Houghton
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You can dismiss our way of playing and arrange your formations above anyway you want, the reality is, it's 5 men in midfield areas, and 1 upfront, making it 4-5-1. If you think 4-4-2 is outdated, that's your right. Fact is, the 4-4-2 formation has got us some of the greatest goals, wins, and moments in our history. It's not designed to entertain the masses, it's designed to get results. We've tried other formations, and the results above show we're better off with our 4-4-2. |
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Hoolahan, Ireland, Reid and Quinn are all playmakers, in that order for me too. Brady is showing real class in cutting in and as well as passing so he could definitely be an option for one of those free roaming midfielders who show up across the pitch also if McGeady is ever actually put in his right position on the RIGHT flank he is yet another creative option. Add to that Gibson and McCarthy behind them I don't for one second believe that Ireland lack or don't have creative players who can't make things happen
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I can see Brady moving inside in a year or two.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 2:14pm |
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I'd be delighted to see a team like this lining out for us game in game out, obviously if a player isn't playing well then a change or two has to be made. I'd also like to see the new manager, use the granny rule and see if we can beef up our playing pool a bit!
Forde Coleman O'Shea Clark Wilson/O'Brien McCarthy Gibson McGeady/Pilks Weso Brady Long Subs (Rough work): Westwood Possible Retirements: Keane & Dunne Walters McClean Stokes Pearce Whelan Meyler Kelly Edited by Green Devil - 13 Oct 2013 at 2:15pm |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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Kevin Kilbane
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Your deluded, Hoolohan can't get in the Norwich squad at the moment , he will be 32 when the euro 2016 campaign starts. He is finished as an international player. He's not that good anyway. Stephen Ireland has not performed for at least 4 years, he has a lot to do to get back in the Irish team . Reid is playing in the first division and while a talented player, he has no stamina and is a liability to the team after 40 minutes. Brady has had a good start to the premier league, but he has not proven anything yet. Ireland are going to seriously struggle to qualify for euro 2016, and who ever cant see that is not in touch with reality.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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In a play-making role, you don't do any dirty work! Basically you get on the ball and spray it around, you don't need to be young to play it. He's a hell of a lot better than the majority of our players on the ball anyway!
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Weser777
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"I'm not the best manager in the world, but I'm definitely in the top one!" - Brian Clough
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tiger you are deluded,wes can play til 34 or5 no problem.
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Weser777
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of course he can - but to what standard? sure he's not getting into his club side at the minute
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mad max
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Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 2:38pm |
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he can play at high enough standard for our 2016 campaign,he doesnt have to play 90 mins every time he can be a great option for last half hour in games.
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Posted: 13 Oct 2013 at 2:52pm |
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Hoolahan shouldn't be starting if he can't get onto the Norwich team.
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whelan cant get in the stoke team,robbie keane doesnt play club football,and those 2 are always picked!!
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In the 4-2-3-1 formation stokes is a must in place of long. From watching both players alot I can say for a fact stokes has better link up play and more guile and craft. Stoke is brilliant from dead ball aswell. Long would be better coming off the bench when the game becomes streched. With brady,mc geady and hoolahan behind him we would have ball players capable of creating lots of chances. I would love it if this was the team we use in the future.
forde coleman,dunne,oshea,o brien mc carthy and gibson mc geady,hoolahan, brady stokes. subs:long,pilkington,mcclean,clark,wilson,keane,walters,westwood,reid,ireland,doyle,whelan,best,cox- good options on the bench. i would get ireland back in with him starting for stoke now. That would be exciting stuff seeing this team !   |
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Kevin Kilbane
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And who is too say that the next manager will even play Hoolohan . I don't think the next manager will, considering he is not even in the norwich city squad.
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Kevin Kilbane
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I agree Whelan shouldn't be in the first team, but Robbie should, he is the only striker have who can put the ball in the back of the net.
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