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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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I'm not saying anyone should take them at face value, but generally a good rating like Trippier's would indicate that he is having a good season, which I think he is, whereas a bad rating generally indicates the opposite. It's a reasonable indicator as to the form of a player over a period of games, but like everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt. It's better than simply saying he's sh*t so he is!
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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I think Whoscored ratings are a great objective way to evaluate how a player is getting on (as opposed to nationally subjective fan forums for instance) The ones who are towards the top of each league are precisely the ones you'd expect to be, watching their performances. Only flaw is it doesn't favour players who come on as subs a lot.
Outside the big three in Portugal though the standard is mediocre so if he's not getting in the team he can't be playing too well. Managers will pick the players they think will win them win games as they are all under pressure to do that, makes no difference whether they were on loan or not. If we're playing wingers you've got Robinson, O'Dowda, Sykes and Ogbene obviously ahead of him and likes of Knight, McClean, Brady and Manning could be deployed there. He'll just get shunted in to the squad like Hamilton just because Kenny got him on board, not to improve us.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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That's pretty much how I see it also regarding Johnstone. I also agree with your point re the ratings where subs are involved!
Edited by John Nice - 02 Mar 2023 at 9:44pm |
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TheNumber6
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 01 Jan 2021 Status: Offline Points: 453 |
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What a load of waffle.. Vítoria would wipe the floor with any of the teams associated with the players mentioned above. Please, refer to their recent (Tapsoba, Edwards) and continuing (Bamba, Andre Almeida) production line. Braga, another team outside the Big 3 were in the knockout stages of Europa league and sold their striker for 30million to Marseille. I know one or two people who spend a lot of time watching Vitoria and all rate him.
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dangere_here
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 24 Nov 2018 Status: Offline Points: 441 |
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And I know a few lads down the pub, means nothing.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Waffle is harsh. They are 5th in the League, 12 points behind Braga in 3rd and have scored just 21 goals in 22 games. Johnstone has started 8 of those 22 games plus 6 sub apps, 1 goal, 2 assists. They also didn't make it through qualifying to the group stages of the conference league this season and it was 3 years prior to this season since they last qualified for Europe.The Portuguese League is ranked just behind the Dutch and just ahead of Belgium and the SPL. It's a decent league with 3 big clubs and braga who have been doing well in recent years. Vitoria have been 6th, 7th, 7th in the last 3 seasons.
Edited by John Nice - 02 Mar 2023 at 11:22pm |
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Tbf Johnstone is 4 years younger than hamilton and has had his injury issues, so probably has a lot more scope for improvement than cj. Still only 23 and definitely has ability so he may become useful in the future!
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Conan
Davey Langan I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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You have a large posse of amigos in Guimaraes then? Vitoria are well behind the teams above....they are the equivalent of Hearts or Hibs. Would you pick players off their subs bench? So he's the 18th best player in a squad ranked 136th in Uefa coefficient, but those objective statistics against the opinion of your imaginary pals in some regional Portuguese town I expect you were one of those goons getting all excited about how Byrne and Crowley were getting a couple of assists at some diddy obscure club in the lower depths of the Eredivisie
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Jake Doyle-Hayes had his advocates less than 2 years ago
Edited by John Nice - 02 Mar 2023 at 11:44pm |
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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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Eoin Toal in the NI squad announced this week. He has done very well since moving over to Bolton but it probably makes sense for him to settle for the north - as a 24 year old right footed centre back he would have had a lot of traffic in front of him to get a cap with us.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Agreed, think I read that he also captained the 6 at u21 level.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9563 |
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Isaac Price also included in that NI squad.
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We're decent enough..
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scottyccfc
Liam Brady Joined: 10 Aug 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1541 |
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Johnston confirmed just now anyway
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Hometown football, cant beat the feeling...
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Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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17 year-old Luke Harris, apparently being considered by Chelsea for a £30 million bid, has been called up to the Welsh senior squad, along with a few other, uncapped, young, English-born players. Have not seen evidence of his links to Ireland other than here.
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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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He mentions it here anyway, albeit not in enough detail to confirm that he definitely qualifies. Anyway it looks like he's going with Wales.
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drog addict
Jack Charlton Castleknocker Joined: 21 Oct 2008 Location: Sunnyvale Status: Offline Points: 6821 |
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Edited by drog addict - 14 Mar 2023 at 5:16pm |
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9563 |
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As usual, Wales don't wait around for things to get messy.
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We're decent enough..
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Maccatacca
Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 4217 |
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The Brits should have one football team.
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