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tetsujin1979 
Ray Houghton 
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Mr. Snrub
Liam Brady
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Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 8:08pm |
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I was only in your man's gaff last night, there has been no update yet. Don't think it's going to happen tbh. Bamford will get his token England cap and that will be that
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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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Boondock
Phil Babb 
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Posted: 07 Dec 2020 at 9:39am |
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Southgate will cap him just to nail him down. Did the same with Redmond when McCarthy came sniffing. How many caps has Redmond had since  Southgate good at doing what previous Ireland managers should have done. Southgate does it even with their large pool of talent and we with our measly pool of players didnt
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Left foot
Ray Houghton
Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 4:58pm |
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Disappointing that there's no reasonable premier league or championship players that could come into the fold for ireland. Up front and midfield are currently a makeshift group of early potential and a few never will bes.
Bamford would improve the team but even if he joined up now the lack of commitment is there to see. Liam Delap can't be beyond possibility and would be a really good addition but again more potential... Really need to see some upside to the rule changes. |
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DeclanDaly
Ray Houghton
Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Location: Boston, USA Status: Offline Points: 3254 |
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 5:50pm |
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Positive and negative, I suppose. Apart from Delap and Lord Bamford, the best prospects are already within our system. A player like Joe Hodge is within our system and could be a very good player in a couple of years. Like with Foden, things can happen very quickly when they get a chance. Same with Jack Taylor, Conor Ronan, or Conor Coventry. If they get promoted or have a chance with the first team, they could very quickly become good options for us. But all we have right now is potential. We don’t have a nailed on quality option who is playing at the very highest level, although Jason Knight and Molumby have the best chance at this point. Players who have ability, are eligible, and could potentially find themselves playing at the highest level? Marcus McGuane Dan Crowley Callum O’Hare Ben Wilmot Marcus Harness John Joe Finn (no idea how good he is) Outside of those were looking at somebody to appear from nowhere like Ciaran Clark or Cyrus Christie |
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady
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Are the first four named above definitely eligible ?
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 6:57pm |
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Ben Wilmot admitted he was in the process of declaring for Ireland because he thought he was too sh*te to play for England but changed his mind after he was called up by England U-19 team. “At Stevenage I was looking at playing for the Republic of Ireland as my Nan was born in Dublin. “I didn’t think England would happen for me, and the I got the call for under-19s just as they were getting the paperwork ready. I felt ready but my greater allegiance was to England. “It took me time to get to grips with it as there were some big names in that team, and going into that off the back of a few League Two games was scary. |
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 6:59pm |
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I don't think Daniel Crowley is ever going to be good enough at Intl level. His record in terms of goals and assists is abysmal and he hasn't made the match day squad for Birmingham in months.
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Fruice
Liam Brady
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 7:06pm |
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when you see where we are now it’s clear we have to change our philosophy around granny rulers.losing grealish will go down as one of our biggest mistakes in relation to this rule.
We need to be selfish about it and cap them young and take decisions out of lads heads. But it is much easier for the likes of England to turn players head. And at the moment they can’t be much worse than what’s available to us.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 7:26pm |
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Unless I'm mistaken, Rice pulled out of the first meaningful competitive squad he was named in. He was named in a squad for a game with Moldova in 2016 but he knew, and the manager knew, that he was never going to get on the pitch in a million years when he hadn't even played a senior game for West Ham at that stage. It's no coincidence he never accepted a single competitive call up once he started playing in the PL for West Ham. Grealish pulled out of the first senior squad he was named in. Bamford, Crowley and Ronan are the highest profile of eligible players who've switched sides at underage level after England showed interest - the latter two only asserting their commitment to us once they started struggling at senior level for various clubs, while Bamford is quite satisfied to wait for England or not at all. It's a nonsensical idea to start using one of three substitutions in a competitive game to cap a Dag & Red player on the off chance he will turn out good enough. How do you think other players would react to stuff like that - do you think it would honestly help further endear Stephen Kenny to the players if they're already on the fence re: him? If Joe Hodge is as highly rated at City as he's supposed to be and was called up for a competitive game in March, a) I'm highly skeptical he would accept a call-up to begin with unless it was to train with the players for the experience, and b) he would not be a willing pawn in a scheme to bring him on in the 6th minute of second half stoppage time when we're beating Luxembourg 3-0 so we can cynically prevent him from playing for another team. Players have agency in this; especially players who play for Man City. Another thing is we can't even score against teams like Gibraltar. So it's pointless contemplating a scenario we're we could be in a position to make a cynical substitution like this. Edited by Hotlips_Hoolahan - 10 Dec 2020 at 7:28pm |
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Four-Four-Two
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 7:30pm |
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crowley wilmot bamford redmond and so on would all be of very good use, if they accepted a call up and gave their all any sensible fan would be happy with that. here's hoping kenny will try to get a few on board, we would be a better team for it and it is always a nice thing to see the diaspora represented in our team, as we are of course a country with huge cultural heritage in our people that have spread across the world
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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 7:47pm |
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Marcus McGuane isn't eligible for us anymore.
Crowley doesn't seem to fit into Karanka's game plan at Birmingham so not getting any games at the moment.
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath 
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 8:30pm |
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Yes , yes we should, like maybe try and put in a system that develops players ourselves ??? No fuking way should we be capping players just to tie them to us
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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J89
Ray Houghton
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 8:35pm |
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Does the new rule changes that were made in September make any difference to his eligibility, or is he still unavailable. Either way he's a squad player for Oxford, who are fourth from bottom in league one, even Jack Taylor would be ahead of him. If he was eligible for us would he even start for our U21s?
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Fruice
Liam Brady
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 8:42pm |
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And why not some of them are already in our systems anyway just need to get them on board before it’s too late. It’s clear our systems in place will only get us so far we have a limited playing pool. Why not use every avenue that’s open to us there is nothing illegal in what we are doing. |
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Fruice
Liam Brady
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 8:54pm |
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With regards Rice we had the opportunity and didn’t take it. Grealish I can’t actually ever remember him being named in a squad could be wrong. Even before that he should have been called up he was out on loan from a premier league club playing regularly and was the stand out player of his under age team nothing to be lost in getting him on for 2 minutes. It’s not as if we ever have a star studded bench and really what difference does a sub coming on for two minutes make. Clearly in the long run it would be worth the gamble.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 9:28pm |
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Speaking of Oxford, Mark Sykes didn't make the match day squad for Oxford's last league game. Don't know if he was injured but he's started just 6 times this season in any regard. Doesn't augur well.
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath
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Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 9:37pm |
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I would hate to see us trying to tie down dual nationals just for the sake of it , its not right whether its legal or not
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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