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also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

He says Conor Hourihane was rejected by Sunderland and when I point out it's incorrect, he moves the goalposts. LOL

He never made an appearance for them and was allowed to leave, if they'd really wanted to keep him they could have. But again, you completely ignore the point because your are unable to argue it. All you are capable of is repetitive, snarky soundbites. 

So I'll repeat for you, do you concur with the logic that being allowed to leave a club (as has happened to Hourihane in his career) immediately makes you unworthy of Ireland consideration? If you think this logic is nonsense, then you actually agree with me and are just arguing for the sake of argument.


They offered him a new deal and he rejected it. I'm amazed you manage to find a way to turn this into him being rejected.

I agree with you. Conor Hourihane is a failure for not making any appearances as an 18 year old with Sunderland when they were in the Premier League.

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Yet again you display your complete lack of basic comprehension. I truly hope you are doing it on purpose, but unfortunately I suspect that you genuinely are so dim that you believe that is what I'm saying. Goodnight and goodluck, hopefully your English teacher can help you with your issue when you head to school tomorrow Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.


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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.
That should be 'blatantly' there. That's one for the English teacher tomorrow. LOL
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.


The loan came to an end and Fulham decided not to extend it or sign him. Bournemouth also decided not to keep him and decided to sell him.  What he did 7 or 8 years ago for them is meaningless.  Both clubs realise at this stage in his career he is not up to it at the level they require and I would say the same for Ireland.  Is he worth a place in the squad.  Yes until one or smallbone or Knight or Cullen or Coventry come through.  He is not up to starting though as he is too ill disciplined positionally and in the tackle. 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.


I remember The O'Shea saying Arter played regularly for Fulham. He started 21 out of a possible 49 games including the playoffs.

Starting 1 in 3 matches on average is not playing regularly.

Then again, what do I know. I have a complete lack of basic comprehension. Cry
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.
That should be 'blatantly' there. That's one for the English teacher tomorrow. LOL

Wow, a typo, good man.
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I thought it might have been a typo the first time alright.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

I thought it might have been a typo the first time alright.


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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.


I remember The O'Shea saying Arter played regularly for Fulham. He started 21 out of a possible 49 games including the playoffs.

Starting 1 in 3 matches on average is not playing regularly.

Then again, what do I know. I have a complete lack of basic comprehension. Cry

21 out of 49 is 1 in 3, is it? LOL 

Last season, Fulham played 46 regular season games, he was injured for 14 of those and suspended for 1. That leaves 31 games. He started 21 of those, and came off the bench in a further 7, so yes, when he was available he basically always played.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

also big difference between a player being rejected when they are 18 and they are now in their late 20s and a player being rejected by clubs in the last few months and they are 31 now.  Can’t compare Arters rejection by Fulham and Bournemouth over the last few months and Hourihane’s alleged rejection 11 years ago. 

Arter went on loan to Fulham, won promotion, and the loan came to an end; where is the rejection? He played for Bournemouth for 10 wildly successful years during which time the team had unprecedented success, where is the rejection? You mean to tell me that the fact he has moved to one of the most favoured sides in the Championship is proof he should be out of Ireland contention, yet you are unwilling to apply that same spurious logic to other Ireland players? The issue is blatently your personal dislike of him, nothing more.


I remember The O'Shea saying Arter played regularly for Fulham. He started 21 out of a possible 49 games including the playoffs.

Starting 1 in 3 matches on average is not playing regularly.

Then again, what do I know. I have a complete lack of basic comprehension. Cry

21 out of 49 is 1 in 3, is it? LOL 

Last season, Fulham played 46 regular season games, he was injured for 14 of those and suspended for 1. That leaves 31 games. He started 21 of those, and came off the bench in a further 7, so yes, when he was available he basically always played.


Harry Arter. So wildly successful for Bournemouth that he played 21 times in the 15/16 PL season and 13 times in the 17/18 PL season.

So wildly successful at Cardiff that they pretty much stopped selecting him in the final third of the season when they were entrenched in a relegation battle.

So wildly successful at Fulham that he started just 21 games and wasn't selected at all in the playoffs, lest Fulham be contractually forced into buying him.

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How 21 out of 49 equals 1 in 3; I'm waiting for the academic paper on that one. I suspect it may be a somewhat flimsy theorem.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

How 21 out of 49 equals 1 in 3; I'm waiting for the academic paper on that one. I suspect it may be a somewhat flimsy theorem.


A paper created by the same mathematician who proposes that playing 21 games out of a possible 49 is playing regularly, no doubt.
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Jesus christ I would declare for f*ck*n Gibraltar listening to some of this sh*te.

Johansen was a specific case mentioned by Kenny. Lads like Dan Crowley  and Bamford were also mentiined.

Kenny also mentioned that alot of players we thought were clearly eligibilr were not actually eligible. Would i ignore that kind of talent being available to us again.. no def not.

Maybe Delap is about to change and did not actually have citizenship before he played. 
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Jesus christ I would declare for f*ck*n Gibraltar listening to some of this sh*te.

Johansen was a specific case mentioned by Kenny. Lads like Dan Crowley  and Bamford were also mentiined.

Kenny also mentioned that alot of players we thought were clearly eligibilr were not actually eligible. Would i ignore that kind of talent being available to us again.. no def not.

Maybe Delap is about to change and did not actually have citizenship before he played. 


It's 323 pages of people asking are lads like Andy Lonergan, CJ Hamilton and Joe Garner eligible, and only now you're realising "it's sh*te"?
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Jesus christ I would declare for f*ck*n Gibraltar listening to some of this sh*te.

Johansen was a specific case mentioned by Kenny. Lads like Dan Crowley  and Bamford were also mentiined.

Kenny also mentioned that alot of players we thought were clearly eligibilr were not actually eligible. Would i ignore that kind of talent being available to us again.. no def not.

Maybe Delap is about to change and did not actually have citizenship before he played. 
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