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It might end up helping us, but what a load of sh*t.
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As much of a fuss that was made over losing Declan Rice, that defection never bothered me 1/10 as much as losing Jack Grealish.  He was the charismatic, creative presence our team was crying out for at the time and still is.

I often wonder if in retrospect, Jack would have made the same choice.  Had he remained with Ireland, he'd have likely earned roughly 40 caps, partaken in Euro 2016, and become the face and cornerstone of the national team for the foreseeable future. 

As it stands, he is still awaiting his first cap for an English team that seems to rate a number of young players ahead of him, with James Maddison next in the cue.

While I've read enough comments to know that many on here want no part of him, would these proposed rule changes allow him to reconsider a decision that perhaps he regrets?  He could potentially be the perfect link between the veterans and the young guns that will be arriving sooner than we think.  Just wondering....
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That's not what we need to be honest, if anything it's a hindrance as it means young English-born players who have a bump in form after lining out for us at senior level could come under pressure to switch.... The only rule we need amended (and which would be genuinely helpful to us) is the one that prevented Johansson from representing us.
We're decent enough..
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Seems to mention a bunch of Brazilians playing for china in the article... I'm not saying it stinks of backhanded envelopes full of cash but....

It would very likely benefit ireland but agree its just another poorly defined rule that fifa want to make worse.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

That's not what we need to be honest, if anything it's a hindrance as it means young English-born players who have a bump in form after lining out for us at senior level could come under pressure to switch.... The only rule we need amended (and which would be genuinely helpful to us) is the one that prevented Johansson from representing us.


Reading it, it seems that a player would have to have not been capped for a period of at least 3 years before they can switch back, so it makes that scenario a bit less likely.
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Originally posted by Paulie Paulie wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

That's not what we need to be honest, if anything it's a hindrance as it means young English-born players who have a bump in form after lining out for us at senior level could come under pressure to switch.... The only rule we need amended (and which would be genuinely helpful to us) is the one that prevented Johansson from representing us.


Reading it, it seems that a player would have to have not been capped for a period of at least 3 years before they can switch back, so it makes that scenario a bit less likely.

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Originally posted by ripbomb ripbomb wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

This could help Ireland 

Going by that Jack Grealish could still play for us.... unlikely and i wouldn't want to see either


Ah come on. His behaviour rubbed me the wrong way but he would help us a lot more than the likes of O'Dowda, Christie or even McGoldrick.

If he opted to play for us right now, and we could have him, I doubt many of us would turn him down.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Fozz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Aug 2020 at 10:20pm
That's mental they are considering this.
As for Grealish, a move to a big club beckons and surely some actual England game-time after that.
But having said that, nowhere near as many games as he;d get if he was back available for Ireland tomorrow...much as that would be bizarre.

I do wonder about Johansson tho?
If he becomes eligible again, we can all harp on about how he's rotting away in Seville and needs a loan to League 1 Big smile


EDIT: Re-reading the article and wording, I fail to see how this doesn't allow Johannson switch now with no issue, bar having to wait 3 years from when he played that competitive match for Luxembourg (which would be from Oct '21, so not miles away by any means)?
What am I missing?


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Well Johansson has switched to Sweden now, so unless they're allowing a third country he's a gonner either way. Crowley might be a more interesting one, it would really depend on the exact wording of the regs, if they don't change the bit that says they needed to be a citizen of one country before playing for the other then they're definitely both still out.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Well Johansson has switched to Sweden now, so unless they're allowing a third country he's a gonner either way. Crowley might be a more interesting one, it would really depend on the exact wording of the regs, if they don't change the bit that says they needed to be a citizen of one country before playing for the other then they're definitely both still out.

Ah true.
I had forgotten that key part.
And if so, both these lads are still ruled out but you'd think that the rules as proposed are far more lenient and the rule that blocks these lads now an outlier if FIFA are trying to make it easier to not be stuck.
Either way, more mud in the water.

I wonder what other lads are out there who were capped as teenagers for other countries and are now working away but suddenly eligible for us?
Someone in the FAI will be given a new project.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Well Johansson has switched to Sweden now, so unless they're allowing a third country he's a gonner either way. Crowley might be a more interesting one, it would really depend on the exact wording of the regs, if they don't change the bit that says they needed to be a citizen of one country before playing for the other then they're definitely both still out.

Ah true.
I had forgotten that key part.
And if so, both these lads are still ruled out but you'd think that the rules as proposed are far more lenient and the rule that blocks these lads now an outlier if FIFA are trying to make it easier to not be stuck.
Either way, more mud in the water.

I wonder what other lads are out there who were capped as teenagers for other countries and are now working away but suddenly eligible for us?
Someone in the FAI will be given a new project.

Two (not good enough) players that I think could switch under this rule would be Martin Kelly and Jon Flanagan.

Seems like a pretty stupid rule all in all. 

Edit: Both of the above only played friendlies, so never mind 


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Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Well Johansson has switched to Sweden now, so unless they're allowing a third country he's a gonner either way. Crowley might be a more interesting one, it would really depend on the exact wording of the regs, if they don't change the bit that says they needed to be a citizen of one country before playing for the other then they're definitely both still out.

Ah true.
I had forgotten that key part.
And if so, both these lads are still ruled out but you'd think that the rules as proposed are far more lenient and the rule that blocks these lads now an outlier if FIFA are trying to make it easier to not be stuck.
Either way, more mud in the water.

I wonder what other lads are out there who were capped as teenagers for other countries and are now working away but suddenly eligible for us?
Someone in the FAI will be given a new project.

Two (not good enough) players that I think could switch under this rule would be Martin Kelly and Jon Flanagan.

Seems like a pretty stupid rule all in all. 

Edit: Both of the above only played friendlies, so never mind 

Neither Kelly or Flanagan are eligible.

Obvious beneficiaries would be Dan Crowley and Nathan Redmond.
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They have to love the Eire first 
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Redmond is on record as saying he would not be playing for us. Crowley, on the other hand, has been waiting patiently and never wavered. This is a no-brainer. I've always been impressed with Crowley.
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Any chance Micky Johnston would declare for us ?
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Originally posted by korourke korourke wrote:

Redmond is on record as saying he would not be playing for us. Crowley, on the other hand, has been waiting patiently and never wavered. This is a no-brainer. I've always been impressed with Crowley.

Wavered a bit that time he played for England which caused this, no ?
And what choice does he have but to be patient  ?  Tell England they're about to lose the Birmingham City number ten is it  ? LOL
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Originally posted by Healy52003 Healy52003 wrote:

Any chance Micky Johnston would declare for us ?

Don’t think he’s good enough to get near the team 
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So Michael Obafemi's one and only competitive cap for us came in November 2018. Under new rule he would only have to wait for another 15 months before switching to another country. Not saying it's likely but....
Geremi has let Kilbane in here, cross comes out to Holland, 1:1!!
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