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I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

That would account for all 5 of them..
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Which is the sort of patronising attitude we would go mad at England fans for...
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Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?


I'd say they resent Miralem Pjanić more
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?


I'd say they resent Miralem Pjanić more
Why? Because he is good? Theoretically, he did everything the right way. In contrast, wasn't it only last September or October that Johansson turned Ireland down and said he wanted to stick with Luxembourg? I am not sure that even the player himself would say that that is the right way!
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?


I'd say they resent Miralem Pjanić more
Why? Because he is good? Theoretically, he did everything the right way. In contrast, wasn't it only last September or October that Johansson turned Ireland down and said he wanted to stick with Luxembourg? I am not sure that even the player himself would say that that is the right way!

No, he didn’t say anything. He was just called up by Lux after being in one of our squads. 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?


I'd say they resent Miralem Pjanić more
Why? Because he is good? Theoretically, he did everything the right way. In contrast, wasn't it only last September or October that Johansson turned Ireland down and said he wanted to stick with Luxembourg? I am not sure that even the player himself would say that that is the right way!

No, he didn’t say anything. He was just called up by Lux after being in one of our squads. 
I am pretty sure there was an interview with Tom Mohan where he said the player had made it clear that he wished to play for Luxembourg. It was probably on this thread, if I could be arsed looking for it.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?


I'd say they resent Miralem Pjanić more
Why? Because he is good? Theoretically, he did everything the right way. In contrast, wasn't it only last September or October that Johansson turned Ireland down and said he wanted to stick with Luxembourg? I am not sure that even the player himself would say that that is the right way!

No, he didn’t say anything. He was just called up by Lux after being in one of our squads. 
I am pretty sure there was an interview with Tom Mohan where he said the player had made it clear that he wished to play for Luxembourg. It was probably on this thread, if I could be arsed looking for it.


He just played for Luxembourg after playing for us. Nothing about committing to them.
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.
I would imagine there is a few football fans in Luxembourg who would disagree with you.

I mean, he made his decision at the age of 18 having never hidden the fact that he wanted to try three different international options. He’s also been living in Germany, and before that France, so he’s hardly been integrated in the Luxembourg system. I’m sure they are disappointed, but how much can you really resent his decision?


I'd say they resent Miralem Pjanić more
Why? Because he is good? Theoretically, he did everything the right way. In contrast, wasn't it only last September or October that Johansson turned Ireland down and said he wanted to stick with Luxembourg? I am not sure that even the player himself would say that that is the right way!

No, he didn’t say anything. He was just called up by Lux after being in one of our squads. 
I am pretty sure there was an interview with Tom Mohan where he said the player had made it clear that he wished to play for Luxembourg. It was probably on this thread, if I could be arsed looking for it.


He just played for Luxembourg after playing for us. Nothing about committing to them.
Fair enough. I still don't think that is the ideal way to be going about it. I imagine national identity is a bizarre concept for a young lad with his background though, which is why he wanted to try all three and see what felt right, but it ends up being a little disrespectful to those he didn't choose, or it could be interpreted that way.
I am largely playing devil's advocate after the Declan Rice overreaction. 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.

I think that's right. Obviously a cliché, but it's all swings and roundabouts. And I believe that despite the stomach-wrenching defection of Rice, on balance, we are still in debit when it comes to granny-rulers and will continue to remain net beneficiaries. It has to be admitted that 
Crowley has made hard-headed career decision just as much as Rice has, but that has served us well in the past, especially, and including, during the most successful period in our history, and will continue to do so into the future.
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Got to say that we’ve had three good young players declare for us this past year, and doing it the right way. Callum Robinson, Ryan Johansson and now Crowley all made their decisions with minimum of fuss and chasing. Obafemi didn’t exactly need to declare, but he handled his announcement well in the face of a lot of external pressure. For all the bad examples in the last few years, these lads have done it right.


A minimum of bet-hedging too. None of that 'wait til I'm 28 before thinking about it' bollocks.
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Our new striker partnership (Keane and Bamford) have both scored penalties today.
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very interesting stuff here: 
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Our new striker partnership (Keane and Bamford) have both scored penalties today.

Has bamford declared 
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His dad is a total chancer, wasn't he pulled up by someone on here a few years ago for having created his own overblown wikipedia page.... He'll push Okoflex whatever way the money/glory is going.
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So I take from that article his mother may Irish. His father sayd hes mixed race and he is fairly light skinned. Even more shamefull if so that hes lining out for the Brits.
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His dad is a total chancer, wasn't he pulled up by someone on here a few years ago for having created his own overblown wikipedia page.... He'll push Okoflex whatever way the money/glory is going.

He wouldn’t be the first person to write their own wiki page.

A couple of interesting things:
It would seem that his mother is Irish - and therefore he is not likely to be eligible for England any way other than residency
At least according to his dad, Okoflex is currently playing for both England and Ireland.
Apparently Ireland didn’t call Okoflex up until after England had. Thinking that may be because his first caps were at schoolboy level.

Still, the idea that a kid born and raised in Dublin could play for England is baffling to me. Hope he sees the light.
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