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Originally posted by Gerry Geary Gerry Geary wrote:

The problem with Rice issue is that we are in a fragile situation among these dudes

It is a very easy situation to solve if the FAI are actually bothered. We have lads like Conor Coventry on the verge of being a regular in the West Ham squad. The likes of him should be called up to the senior squad against someone like Gibraltar in order to call his bluff. Ireland really need to start going down the route that Wales have re capping lads early in competitive fixtures to make sure they have them for the future instead of arsing around. 
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I totally agree with grannyrule here... it’s exactly what we have to do to, to avoid long drawn out situations and wasting time with the likes Rice and Grealish 

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How many players have the Welsh capped that haven't proved to be good enough for them? That's a genuine question too. It's just that the only ones I can think of have all proved their worth. Are they capping players just to tie them down? Or are they giving their best young players a chance?
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From what little I've seen, this Connell fella looks like a real prospect! Bolton's fans seem to be hugely impressed. 

Sweet finish from Okoflex - am still gobsmacked he's involved with the tans' underage setup. If there was ever an environment that might change his mind, Celtic Park is probably the best place LOL





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Originally posted by BippityBoop BippityBoop wrote:

Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

https://twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1095274160228655110?s=19

Whats the craic with that lad? Not actually researched him at great length, but born and bred in Ireland, represented us at u16 level then switched to England u17?

Yeah can someone fill in the blanks here? Born in Dublin and came up through the ranks with Kevins. Is there familial link with England or is it residence that they've tapped him up?
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I would get that Johnson from Celtic and Johansson...plus crowley
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by BippityBoop BippityBoop wrote:

Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

https://twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1095274160228655110?s=19

Whats the craic with that lad? Not actually researched him at great length, but born and bred in Ireland, represented us at u16 level then switched to England u17?

Yeah can someone fill in the blanks here? Born in Dublin and came up through the ranks with Kevins. Is there familial link with England or is it residence that they've tapped him up?

Born and bred in Dublin.  Played for Kevins Boys.  Moved to Arsenal Academy at 11 in London.  His parents are from Nigeria and his Dad is a prominent social campaigner in Dublin.  Qualifies for England through residence only afaik.

It's an odd case as he's born in Dublin, grew up in Dublin, went to school in Dublin, but is playing for England. 

Has huge potential.

England, like Wales, Scotland, US etc. have huge scouting network and trying to get anyone eligible (by whatever avenue) on to their books. 
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Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by BippityBoop BippityBoop wrote:

Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

https://twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1095274160228655110?s=19

Whats the craic with that lad? Not actually researched him at great length, but born and bred in Ireland, represented us at u16 level then switched to England u17?

Yeah can someone fill in the blanks here? Born in Dublin and came up through the ranks with Kevins. Is there familial link with England or is it residence that they've tapped him up?

Born and bred in Dublin.  Played for Kevins Boys.  Moved to Arsenal Academy at 11 in London.  His parents are from Nigeria and his Dad is a prominent social campaigner in Dublin.  Qualifies for England through residence only afaik.

It's an odd case as he's born in Dublin, grew up in Dublin, went to school in Dublin, but is playing for England. 

Has huge potential.

England, like Wales, Scotland, US etc. have huge scouting network and trying to get anyone eligible (by whatever avenue) on to their books. 

Thanks for the background info, ill keep an eye out for him. How close is he to making the senior squad (I know he's only 16).

Wish the English FA had tried harder with Rice and avoided all this whole drama.
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Isn't the residency rule living 5 yrs in a country after the age of 18...how can he still represent England if only 16 and not living there now?

also I think the 'home nations' agreed to scrap this between them
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Originally posted by Luis Amor Rodriguez Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by BippityBoop BippityBoop wrote:

Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

https://twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1095274160228655110?s=19

Whats the craic with that lad? Not actually researched him at great length, but born and bred in Ireland, represented us at u16 level then switched to England u17?

Yeah can someone fill in the blanks here? Born in Dublin and came up through the ranks with Kevins. Is there familial link with England or is it residence that they've tapped him up?

Born and bred in Dublin.  Played for Kevins Boys.  Moved to Arsenal Academy at 11 in London.  His parents are from Nigeria and his Dad is a prominent social campaigner in Dublin.  Qualifies for England through residence only afaik.

It's an odd case as he's born in Dublin, grew up in Dublin, went to school in Dublin, but is playing for England. 

Has huge potential.

England, like Wales, Scotland, US etc. have huge scouting network and trying to get anyone eligible (by whatever avenue) on to their books. 

Tidy goal. 

If I'm not mistaken he only played friendlies to England and can no longer play for them as by moving to Scotland he hadn't lived n England long enough for eligibility.  I read that in here anyway

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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Isn't the residency rule living 5 yrs in a country after the age of 18...how can he still represent England if only 16 and not living there now?

also I think the 'home nations' agreed to scrap this between them

I don't think you need to be over 18 for the 5 year residency rule to apply (e.g.: Obafemi was eligible for England, despite being born in Ireland).  

As regards "home nations", obviously ROI is not regarded as one of those.  Eng, Sco, Wal and NI have an agreement between themselves to apply FIFA rules as between themselves (as none of them are nation-states and their very existence as independent international teams is an exception to the general rule - an exception granted due to the over 100 yr old historical context). 
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As for THE turncoat....we have to cherish Jimmy mac ...mcgeady ...mcclean Duffy okane ... wilson Gibson who all wanted to play and were bullied around
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The 4 UK nations don't apply the residency rule as set out by FIFA; they have their own "5 years of schooling" in the country rule. It's the reason why Manuel Almunia couldn't play for England; Nacho Novo for Scotland; etc.
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He was mates with a friend of mines son growing up in Glasnevin. Ill have to ask him about his heritage, he is very light skinned for a Nigerian maybe he has  an English mother or Grandparents.

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Originally posted by Gerry Geary Gerry Geary wrote:

As for THE turncoat....we have to cherish Jimmy mac ...mcgeady ...mcclean Duffy okane ... wilson Gibson who all wanted to play and were bullied around

Gibson LOL
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Originally posted by grannyrule grannyrule wrote:

Originally posted by Gerry Geary Gerry Geary wrote:

The problem with Rice issue is that we are in a fragile situation among these dudes

It is a very easy situation to solve if the FAI are actually bothered. We have lads like Conor Coventry on the verge of being a regular in the West Ham squad. The likes of him should be called up to the senior squad against someone like Gibraltar in order to call his bluff. Ireland really need to start going down the route that Wales have re capping lads early in competitive fixtures to make sure they have them for the future instead of arsing around. 
if the FAI are actually bothered? Last time I checked it was the manager that picked the squad/team and he who decided who was subbed on/off not the FAI. So going by your post, you want John Delaney to decide? Or maybe Joe McGlue could be the man with the sayso, after all hes at all the matches and training sessions. Feck it, we cant be sexist, perhaps Cria in the Ticket Office could give it a go instead, shes already proved to be worth her weight in gold in her current role so clearly she would be the answer to tying down these pesky dualers before they defect. 

Capping players for the sake of it is not the answer and carries as much risk as not capping them. Just because theyre capped at the first sniff of being a potential prospect does not mean they wont regret it later and become a half arsed not interested cry off at every opportunity type of cyunt. If a player is commited he will await his call up. If not he will go elsewhere and that is exactly where we should all want him to go anyway if hes not commited.
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I read some english newspapers and some comments from the regular people there and the level of ANTI IRISH is remarkable in football by the english. The hating and the idea that its been more than 35 years that they defeated Eire Is haunting them....its like a VICTORY for the 3 lions

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Originally posted by Gerry Geary Gerry Geary wrote:

I read some english newspapers and some comments from the regular people there and the level of ANTI IRISH is remarkable in football by the english. The hating and the idea that its been more than 35 years that they defeated Eire Is haunting them....its like a VICTORY for the 3 lions


We're talking about a breed of people whose footballing delegates either literally s**t themselves on the field, rip up the stands or infiltrate our youth teams under the guise of being Irish. Keeping the indecency to the printed word would represent an improvement.
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