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JoxerDaly 
Liam Brady 
Joined: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1275 |
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 Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 9:11am |
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Whats the odds Crowley not even mentioned again today. Too like Hoolahan, O'Neill has no intrest in a player of his stature.
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Kevin Kilbane 
Joined: 03 Sep 2018 Location: cork Status: Offline Points: 199 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 10:45am |
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Crowley doubt will be spoken about...if MON was smart he would.
This going to be the Rice sh*t show.
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Lansdown Roar
500 Club la la la 
Joined: 10 Jan 2016 Status: Offline Points: 602 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 10:48am |
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Has Crowley not messed us around a couple of times?
He has accepted a call up to England whenever they have called him up. Willing to come to us now cause he knows his opportunity is gone ffs.
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They've only gone and done it
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JoxerDaly
Liam Brady
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 10:50am |
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He said he played with both and now wants to choose Ireland. Abdoloutley fine by me. Kid is still very young. If he wanted to he could do a Liam kelly and wait to see what would happen with England in a few years. Call him up ffs.
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davereilly
Kevin Kilbane
Joined: 24 Jan 2018 Location: High Helvetica Status: Offline Points: 298 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 4:26pm |
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http://www.punditarena.com/football/oisinmcqueirns2758/report-young-bayern-starlet-stalls-ireland-commitment-21/
I didn't know you were locked if you changed declaration underage, so I understand to a degree, but huge loss if we lose this guy. Surely already good enough to play for Luxembourg |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady
Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 4:49pm |
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James Maddison called up by England.
He may well have always been leaning in that direction, but don't know why he wasn't approached by our senior management back when he was getting game time for Aberdeen and before.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton
I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9563 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 5:03pm |
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We tried to call Maddison up to our U-21's when he was at Coventry, he rejected the opportunity. So no real complaints with that one.
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We're decent enough..
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 5:10pm |
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Senior Management should have got involved, as with other talents that were very obvious at a young age (Grealish, Rice, Michael Keane).
Noel King calls around to you, it's easy to say no. Roy or MON call around (despite current problems, both legends of the game) and lay out a pathway to the senior team, call you up to training squads a la Richie Dunne as a 17 year old, maybe pop you on for 10 min against Moldova or Gibraltar while you're playing out of your skin at Aberdeen/Notts County etc, and it's a very different story.
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Robbie Keane
I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 5:14pm |
 He should have been in the boot of a Renault Mégane.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton
I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9563 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 5:33pm |
I can accept some grievances with Grealish and Rice, but to suggest Maddison should be playing with us is lunacy. He's never represented us at any level; he was offered the chance but had no interest. Completely different to the aforementioned who were actually part of the setup and had at least some interest in playing for Ireland which we could have leveraged more effectively.
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We're decent enough..
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 5:47pm |
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It's not lunacy O'Shea.
Maddison was never approached by senior management 2 years ago when he was playing adult football and showing serious promise. We've no idea how he would have reacted, but if you're 16 years old and a legend of the game like Roy Keane turns up spelling out a pathway to performance at senior level for a team that *should* regularly qualify for tournaments, it would be hard to turn down. That this is the case is clear from Wales. Chris Coleman (hardly a legend of the game), representing Wales (a team with zero pedigree between 1958 and 2016), was able to convince a whole host of very promising dual-nationality players (some already outstanding) to play for him: Woodburn, Ampadu, David Brooks, Harry Wilson, Smith at Twente, Mepham, Tyler Roberts I could go on.
Edited by Luis Amor Rodriguez - 04 Oct 2018 at 5:59pm |
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The Huntacha
Roy Keane
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 6:19pm |
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In all seriousness, why would you approach a player who has previously rejected an under 21 call up?
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 6:21pm |
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I can imagine Roy Keane turning up to the door with a packet of Haribo and two litres of Club Orange.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 6:25pm |
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You're missing the point. You approach with MON or RK first and can consider how permanent the level of any call-up is later.
You don't send the likes of Noel King out for you - famous for putting players off! That's what England do - Southgate approaches lads directly (Grealish, Rice, Michael Keane, Tom Cairney, McTominay, Dier), as do Wales - Coleman and Giggs to that - as do Norn Iron - as the US did with Klinnsman. Set out a pathway to the senior side, maybe involve them in a few training squads, a cap against Gibralter, back to U21s if that's what's best for their development at that stage. But make it attractive. Coleman has done that - with fantastic results.
Edited by Luis Amor Rodriguez - 04 Oct 2018 at 6:27pm |
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mully_85
Davey Langan
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 6:58pm |
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have to agree with luis here... a lot to gain and nothing to lose with a pro active, energetic approach like that.
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 7:22pm |
f**king hell, reading this forum you would think the Welsh had just won the World Cup with a team full of world beaters who were all eligible for England until they smartly capped them at 16 in meaningless senior games. |
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Liam Green
500 Club la la la
Joined: 27 Aug 2018 Location: Portumna Status: Offline Points: 614 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 7:44pm |
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Id agree with Luis too.. we need to be proactive across the board..I’d sooner have lads on here celebrating more wins and better players than having constantly bad vibes... whatever way we can get a better pool of players we need to be taking exactly the same approach as England and Wales...,And also hope more Irish born players come through the ranks which I’d be hopeful of too with our under 17 and 19s etc
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ErsatzThistle
Liam Brady
Joined: 05 Nov 2013 Location: Glasgow Status: Offline Points: 1013 |
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Posted: 04 Oct 2018 at 8:57pm |
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That's what England do - Southgate approaches lads directly (Grealish, Rice, Michael Keane, Tom Cairney, McTominay, Dier), as do Wales - Coleman and Giggs to that - as do Norn Iron - as the US did with Klinnsman. All Gareth Southgate ever did with Scott McTominay was to send him a text message asking is he wanted to play for England U21s. Brian McClair went on record explaining what happened. Alex McLeish on the other hand got his auld ginger arse straight down to Carrington during a snowstorm to meet McTominay and spent the best part of an afternoon talking with him. Result was that McLeish got him on board. Btw I hope YBIG do manage to keep Rice on board. It is ridiculous that FIFA allows players to make a senior international appearance for a nation and still not be tied down permanently.
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