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Still only 19 plenty of time for him to develop. Lads like Hoolahan and Hourihane only broke through at 25 26 . It's a lot harder for lads in there late teens early 20s nowadays.
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Originally posted by dubstep dubstep wrote:

Well he's only played 1 game in England so he's sort of came from nowhere, Looks to have lightening pace and has an eye for goal. Exactly what we need. We will know soon enough though as I'd imagine he will get a call up for N.Ireland soon with there options very thin on the ground.


This one is unlikely for you lads, he was at the Euros as part of the Northern Ireland squad and has spoke of wanting to play for NI.
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Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
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Spot on - it’s not as if telephone lines into Dublin have been down for months , he could easily have picked up a phone
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Originally posted by NIGreenWall NIGreenWall wrote:

Originally posted by dubstep dubstep wrote:

Well he's only played 1 game in England so he's sort of came from nowhere, Looks to have lightening pace and has an eye for goal. Exactly what we need. We will know soon enough though as I'd imagine he will get a call up for N.Ireland soon with there options very thin on the ground.


This one is unlikely for you lads, he was at the Euros as part of the Northern Ireland squad and has spoke of wanting to play for NI.


Was he?
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
 
Mcclean played for N.I u21s also. He was going to our homes games regularly when at Linfield. If we came calling id have no doubt he would agree to play for us. Lets see how he develops still very young. But we should be keeping an eye on him. 
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
agreed.


Spot on - it’s not as if telephone lines into Dublin have been down for months , he could easily have picked up a phone
 
Probably more concentrated in breaking into the QPR side I would imagine this last 4 months. Could possibly not even have been thinking off international football considering hes only left the Irish league.  
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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
agreed.


Spot on - it’s not as if telephone lines into Dublin have been down for months , he could easily have picked up a phone
 
Probably more concentrated in breaking into the QPR side I would imagine this last 4 months. Could possibly not even have been thinking off international football considering hes only left the Irish league.  
 
Confused you stated earlier he was playing for the NI u21's
 
again wtf should we go to him instead of visa versa
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by NIGreenWall NIGreenWall wrote:

Originally posted by dubstep dubstep wrote:

Well he's only played 1 game in England so he's sort of came from nowhere, Looks to have lightening pace and has an eye for goal. Exactly what we need. We will know soon enough though as I'd imagine he will get a call up for N.Ireland soon with there options very thin on the ground.


This one is unlikely for you lads, he was at the Euros as part of the Northern Ireland squad and has spoke of wanting to play for NI.


Was he?
not according to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016_squads#Northern_Ireland

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Paul Smyth was one of four or five NI youth players invited to join the main squad at the Euros. There for the experience
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Cant really see us getting him tbh unless Michael takes over the Republic and even then its not likely to happen.
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
agreed.


Spot on - it’s not as if telephone lines into Dublin have been down for months , he could easily have picked up a phone
 
Probably more concentrated in breaking into the QPR side I would imagine this last 4 months. Could possibly not even have been thinking off international football considering hes only left the Irish league.  
 
Confused you stated earlier he was playing for the NI u21's
 
again wtf should we go to him instead of visa versa
So because he has played for NI u21s that means hes concentrating on his international career at this moment, I think we know playing underage levels here doesn't mean jack. How many of our players in the past have played underage football for n.i? Id imagine as a young player only starting his professional career the last thing on his mind is to give martin o neill a bell. Surely the manager should be contacting prospects to discuss their situation. I thought that's usually how it worked.


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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
agreed.


Spot on - it’s not as if telephone lines into Dublin have been down for months , he could easily have picked up a phone
 
Probably more concentrated in breaking into the QPR side I would imagine this last 4 months. Could possibly not even have been thinking off international football considering hes only left the Irish league.  
 
Confused you stated earlier he was playing for the NI u21's
 
again wtf should we go to him instead of visa versa
So because he has played for NI u21s that means hes concentrating on his international career at this moment, I think we know playing underage levels here doesn't mean jack. How many of our players in the past have played underage football for n.i? Id imagine as a young player only starting his professional career the last thing on his mind is to give martin o neill a bell. Surely the manager should be contacting prospects to discuss their situation. I thought that's usually how it worked.
 
your referenced 'thinking' about international career then subsequently changed to  concentrating bit of difference ????
 
who mentioned phoning Martin O Neill , contact the FAI, its not thst difficult, times have moved on from pony express
 
did he accept the euro invite BTW ?
 
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

If he was that big of an Ireland fan surely he would have let it be known he wanted to play/switch to us.
agreed.


Spot on - it’s not as if telephone lines into Dublin have been down for months , he could easily have picked up a phone
 
Probably more concentrated in breaking into the QPR side I would imagine this last 4 months. Could possibly not even have been thinking off international football considering hes only left the Irish league.  
 
Confused you stated earlier he was playing for the NI u21's
 
again wtf should we go to him instead of visa versa
So because he has played for NI u21s that means hes concentrating on his international career at this moment, I think we know playing underage levels here doesn't mean jack. How many of our players in the past have played underage football for n.i? Id imagine as a young player only starting his professional career the last thing on his mind is to give martin o neill a bell. Surely the manager should be contacting prospects to discuss their situation. I thought that's usually how it worked.
 
your referenced 'thinking' about international career then subsequently changed to  concentrating bit of difference ????
 
who mentioned phoning Martin O Neill , contact the FAI, its not thst difficult, times have moved on from pony express
 
did he accept the euro invite BTW ?
 
 
Possibly not thinking of his international career. The concentrating part was more of a question to you about playing for the under 21 side. But obviously you couldnt work that out.
 
I didn't know it was the FAI that selected the squads. Sorry about that.
 
whether he went to the euros or not so what? why does that matter to us? he can still play for us, if he is good enough we should be considering him as an option. It shouldnt matter to us what he has done with n.i in that past, That shouldn't worry us if we are able to select him. He has potential, not like we are coming down with young upcoming strikers at that level. Every decent option available to us should be considered.
 
And this is nonsense about him not being that big of a fan if hes playing for N.I. Did mcclean play for N.I under 21s? yes he did. I take it hes not a big fan of ours? The young fellow travelled to numerous games with the club I was involved in and was as passionate as any other there, So don't be coming out and saying oh hes not really a fan because he hasn't phoned the FAI jesus wept.Ermm
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The simple solution would be to just ask him, if he says yes, great, and if he says no, then move on.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

The simple solution would be to just ask him, if he says yes, great, and if he says no, then move on.
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I believe it's a policy of the FAI (although I'm open to correction) not to approach any players in NI. The initiative to move south has to come from the player themselves so in this instance NR would be right.  
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Originally posted by PaulB PaulB wrote:

 
Possibly not thinking of his international career. The concentrating part was more of a question to you about playing for the under 21 side. But obviously you couldnt work that out.
 
I didn't know it was the FAI that selected the squads. Sorry about that.
 
whether he went to the euros or not so what? why does that matter to us? he can still play for us, if he is good enough we should be considering him as an option. It shouldnt matter to us what he has done with n.i in that past, That shouldn't worry us if we are able to select him. He has potential, not like we are coming down with young upcoming strikers at that level. Every decent option available to us should be considered.
 
And this is nonsense about him not being that big of a fan if hes playing for N.I. Did mcclean play for N.I under 21s? yes he did. I take it hes not a big fan of ours? The young fellow travelled to numerous games with the club I was involved in and was as passionate as any other there, So don't be coming out and saying oh hes not really a fan because he hasn't phoned the FAI jesus wept.Ermm
 
I will make this as simple as I can for you.
 
Given the whole CAS judgement and the fall out from it re FIFA and eligibility it is now crystal clear who can play for us and who cant .- a judgement I might add I whole heartenly welcomed and celebrated
 
You stated he is probably not thinking about international career then in the next breath he is playing for NI under 21s and was invited as their guest in Euro 2016 - Why did you think he was invited along - as a jolly ? - you cant have it both ways  
 
Martin O Neill selects the underage squads - first I heard of it
 
See point 1
 
No I am saying he couldn't be that fussed as he hasn't phoned the FAI, is he going to phone ?, issue a come and get me plea ?, hire a plane  with a banner  or say nothing ?
 
It really isn't that difficult
 
And as Willmc83 indicated there may well be an unwritten rule, informal understanding between the FAI/IFA that a player from the north has to make the first move .
 
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Edited by Newryrep - 03 Jan 2018 at 4:00pm
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Originally posted by willmcc83 willmcc83 wrote:

I believe it's a policy of the FAI (although I'm open to correction) not to approach any players in NI. The initiative to move south has to come from the player themselves so in this instance NR would be right.  
I believe I have read that from the FAI, too.

Yet it's bullsh*t - several NI-born players have been approached, inc eg 

Yesterday [29 April 2011], former Irish under 21 boss Don Givens confirmed that the FAI had approached Derry-born Shane Ferguson about the possibility of playing for the Republic of Ireland.

Ferguson, who has been a Northern Ireland international from under 17 level upwards, and has even played a friendly game at senior level, coming on as a substitute in a 3-0 loss against Italy. The fact that he has yet to play a competitive match for Northern Ireland allows him to switch allegiances and declare for another country.

Ferguson has caught the eye of many Irish fans playing for Newcastle United in the Premiership this season, and yesterday Don Givens (now the FAI’s chief scout) confirmed that the FAI had approached the 19 year old in order to get him to change to the Republic of Ireland.

“Shane is still kind of making his mind up but Mick Martin has spoken to him,” Givens told journalists. “I’m sure the North are not too happy with us. They have a small pool of players but in the long run, the less good results they get the more the dual players will want to come to us.”

http://greenscene.me/2011/04/fai-approach-shane-ferguson/

[Subsequent events have proven that Shane was not declining to play for NI for a period because he was interested in representing ROI. Rather it was that he had had a falling-out with Nigel Worthington, which was rectified the moment Michael O'Neill took over.]

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