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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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Didn't know he was from a Russian background. The Russian community in Riga (about 25% of the city's population) were moved in during the Soviet era to try and make Latvia more Russian and keep it in Moscow's orbit. They were never welcomed by the native Latvians and felt like complete outcasts in the city when I was there a few years ago, you'd see Russian bars and restaurants tucked away in quiet corners of the city and nobody Latvian seemed to have a good word to say about them. And that was before Russia invaded Ukraine so it's probably worse now. If he is of Russian descent I doubt he'll play for Latvia wherever he ends up.
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JoxerDaly
Liam Brady Joined: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1273 |
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A decent left full will always get chances with England a position they have never had loads of depth in, can't see why he wouldn't stick with them tbh.
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 8366 |
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What the f**k does that even mean?
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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darmack
Ray Houghton Joined: 24 Mar 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 4695 |
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It was more taking the piss out of the lads who were up in arms about Obafemi being born here looking for a passport/citizenship. Similar situation that his parents aren't Irish and then he left when he was a kid.
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Fireball07
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 25 Mar 2012 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 375 |
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Cirkin is a decent player.
Personally, he'd be the type of player I think we should be pursuing. As of now, I doubt he'll be good enough to get many caps for England. But he is still very young and has improved massively this season, despite all the injuries. Get him capped while he's young and he could be a very good option. He's very good at left centre-back, and a pretty decent left-back. Very committed, strong in the tackle (bit rash at times) and has added goals to his game. His biggest flaw is that he is ridiculously one-footed and a little predictable as a result of that.
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J89
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3610 |
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And similar to Sean Roughan this will likely be his long term position rather than playing WB or FB. |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Yes, and at 21 Cirkin is significantly ahead of the other like candidates in terms of development (e.g.: Adaramola, Furlong, Roughan, etc.).
The only player "outside" the squad in and around his level is Manning, who is a different type of player and different age-profile. From this remove, Cirkin would be someone to get involved, if a possibility. Put it this way, if he was born in Belfast or Cardiff (or New York), they'd have been on to him long ago.
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J89
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3610 |
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If he was born in Cardiff or New York he wouldn't be eligible ffs
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9559 |
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He wouldn't be eligible if he'd been born in Belfast either incidentally, but that's clearly not the point that was being made.
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We're decent enough..
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J89
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3610 |
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Yes he would.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9559 |
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No, he wouldn't. Irish citizenship to those born in the north is only afforded to individuals with at least 1 Irish born parent. Cirkin, and everyone else like his with 2 foreign parents, would be ineligible for Ireland.
Edited by The O'Shea - 03 Jun 2023 at 4:48pm |
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We're decent enough..
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J89
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3610 |
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https://www.dfa.ie/citizenship/
First paragraph: If you or your parent were born on the island of Ireland before 2005, you are an Irish citizen. You can apply for an Irish passport without making an application for citizenship. |
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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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He would have been as someone born in 2002.
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J89
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Even after 2005 I'm somewhat sure he'd be eligible as Latvia joined the EU before the referendum so his parents would have been EU citizens so would have been legally allowed reside in Ireland. "Individuals born in the country since that date (Jan 1st 2005) receive Irish citizenship at birth if at least one of their parents is an Irish citizen or entitled to be one, a British citizen, a resident with no time limit of stay in either the Republic or Northern Ireland, or a resident who has been domiciled on the island of Ireland for at least three of the preceding four years." As EU citizens they'd surely meet the requirement in bold wouldn't they? Edited by J89 - 03 Jun 2023 at 5:34pm |
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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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They would have up until Brexit anyway. Not sure what the situation would be for a (non-Irish) EU national moving to the north now. Probably hardly any move there these days, they would just move to the Republic instead.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9559 |
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No, he wouldn't. It was formalised as part of the GFA that Irish citizenship in the north would only be conferred to those with at least 1 Irish born parent.
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We're decent enough..
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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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You better let the Department of Foreign Affairs know then... "If you or your parent were born on the island of Ireland before 2005, you are an Irish citizen." |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Sorry, I've caused confusion and perhaps I wasn't clear. If he was born in Cardiff or Belfast or New York: Wales, NI or USA would be on to him smart-ish making a big effort to get him involved. I wasn't saying foreign-born Irish eligible players get priority in our selections. A different topic altogether.
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