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Fozz
Liam Brady Joined: 08 Oct 2019 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 2248 |
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Yeah, I'm not 100% on this as, and we mentioned this before, the rules talk about "A" Internationals, whatever that means. Does it mean Seniors, or is U21's also "A"? In our case, Conor Noss turns 21 this Jan and we have U21 matches after that and he's likely to be still in the squad, so should come clear then. |
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tetsujin1979
Ray Houghton Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Status: Offline Points: 4117 |
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Saw it in the 42's newsletter last week
Edited by tetsujin1979 - 22 Sep 2021 at 4:49pm |
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Bandwagon
Ray Houghton Joined: 07 Feb 2021 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 3335 |
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I cant see Fifa's definition of an A International anywhere. They dont make their rules clear cut or easy to understand, do they? Heres an interesting one I came across while looking for an answer, It should be noted that there is an exception underpinned by the
principle of legal certainty, whereby the age limit of 21 does not apply
to players who played their last match for their old national team
prior to September 18, 2020, when the new rules were introduced. This
exception explains why Aymeric Laporte, who played for France Under-21s
at the age of 21 in 2016. So IF Obafemi had a Nigerian passport prior to playing for us in 2018, he can still switch to Nigeria at any stage. ..and given that example of Leporte there saying he played for Frances u21s, I'm guessing an A International is regarded as any competitive game at any age level?
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davekoolhill
Liam Brady Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2318 |
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That's a real shame about Darragh Burns. Such an exciting footballer who could have been excellent for Ireland in a few years if his career continues to excel. A real pity his heart isn't with Ireland. |
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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The term 'A' Internationals refers to Senior internationals only i.e. the highest level, not under-age. It was used to distinguish such matches from the old 'B' Internationals - remember them? More generally, FIFA have published an Explainer on Eligibility, which takes in the latest amendments to the Rules: Reading that should shorten the winter for ya!
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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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That's not quite correct. Playing under 21 after your 21st birthday only ties you if you didn't hold the nationality of the country you want to switch to when you won your first competitive underage cap. So - Conor Gallagher almost certainly didn't have Irish citizenship when he won his first underage England cap, so playing for their under 21s after his 21st birthday almost certainly ties him to them and he now can't play for us. However Conor Coventry, being English born, would have had British citizenship when he won his first Irish underage cap. So him playing for our Under 21s after his 21st birthday doesn't tie him to us and he could still theoretically play for England. |
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You Tell Me
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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This isn't quite correct either. Firstly, an A international is a senior international, that bit is clear enough. Also, Obafemi isn't tied to us anyway because he was under 21 when he played for us, so the Laporte thing isn't applicable to him. Even if he didn't have a Nigerian passport back then he could switch to them after November if he wants to, unless we play him before then.
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Bandwagon
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The more I look at the rules, the more confused I get. I give up |
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Any point in Kenny trying to have a word with Nathan Redmond again after this campaign? 27 now and he remains eligible I think?
I'm not a big fan of overly pursuing players who don't appear to have a genuine desire to play for us, but he would surely improve our team and he can play anywhere across the front line. Is it worth one last shot, I know Jamaica are after him also?
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J89
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Not eligible according to Kenny, along with Callum O'Hare at Coventry.
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Bandwagon
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No, hes been asked already leave it at that.
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John Nice
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Fair enough so, clutching at straws really. hard to believe how few players we have in the PL currently.
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inlikeflynn
500 Club la la la Joined: 29 Oct 2014 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 723 |
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Chris Conn-Clarke - has anyone ever heard of him?
His name doesn't sound particularly Irish, but he is being called the "West Belfast Magician".
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You Tell Me
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That would be Christopher Seamus Michael Conn Clarke, ex St. Mary's CBS Belfast. So, yes, very much from the nationalist community if that's what you're asking.
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kevin100
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Garcia Mcnulty Johansson and Patrick Finn not in the 21s squad! Odd one leaves even more question marks then the senior squad which is saying something!
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Nialler
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Maybe different covid regs there? although Zefi was in the other squad for Cork early October.
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J89
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Is McNulty even playing any football this season. Wolfsburg have done away with their reserves so Jake O'Brien would be at least playing reserve football and the other two are playing senior football.
Similar Devoy, Tierney, and Watson are playing senior football. Gilbert is more of a winger so not sure why he's in with the midfielders but he's also playing senior football. |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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That's depressing stuff. You'd have to say all things being equal they should be in on merit compared to some of the picks. Maybe it's injury related? Odubeko obviously too, as is well-documented. Under the radar omissions who have the potential to have good careers are Armstrong Okoflex of Tallaght and Deji Sotona of Waterford (ex Man Utd, currently in the senior squad at Nice; his old boss, Patrick Viera tried to sign him for Palace). Someone who's commitment is not in doubt - Festy Ebosole from Wexford - was in fine form at the start of the season and has consistently performed will in green right through the underage ranks and in European championships. Maybe he's injured? Otherwise, he's only 19, so might be marked for younger age-group.
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