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Bit of a headache, that document, but I supposed Johansson would fit this scenario:

b) the player:
i) was fielded in a match in an official competition at any level (with the exception of “A” international level) in any kind of football for his current association;
ii) at the time of being fielded for his first match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association, he did not hold the nationality of the association which he wishes to represent.

 iii) at the time of being fielded for his last match in an official competition in any kind of football for his current association, he had not turned 21 years old; and
iv) meets any of the requirements provided in article 6 or article 7.

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Correct. Played at underage, not senior; wasn't an Irish citizen; hasn't played for Lux after his 21st birthday (he's 20); grandparent born in Ireland.

So he now qualifies for us.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Having said all that, while he does appear to be eligible under the new rules, he also needs to actually want to declare for us. It sounded from the interview he gave that he was still open to all three countries at this point. He probably needs to make that decision first of all.


And with the U21's comp starting in March, you'd think a young lad would want to look to be featuring in one of the squads if they'd have him.  To hear him say he hasn't thought about it since moving to Spain seems odd after the lengths he went to beforehand to declare for us.

I'm not suggesting he'd get into our U21 squad at this stage but he's just turned 20 so will have (if I am correct) one more U21s campaign in him but after that, it's senior caps or no caps so I'd not be hanging around.
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There is potentially an element of him waiting to see how his career progresses.
For example if he is in fact eligible for us and he played a couple of u21 games now, he may never get to senior level if his career doesn't develop and he would have lost any chance of playing for Luxembourg.

Why make a decision now at underage level when the senior game is the goal


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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/gv5axxtvu2aydszqfiw6.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj7tJ3C7InvAhWRN8AKHWByBfgQFjAAegQIBBAD&usg=AOvVaw37R-gW2wJTvHJkziJ58jfT

This is the relevant document. Johansson now qualifies under Article 9, Section 2, Subsection b.

With regard to the additional requirements set out in part iv of subsection b, he qualifies under Article 7, Section 1, Subsection c (grandparent born in Ireland).

I realise that's a very technical answer written in legalese, but that's the answer.
Thanks very much, that’s exactly what I was looking for. 

That is one hot mess of a document though. Sect. 9.2 A refers to having to hold nationality at the time of the youth cap and then sect 9.2 B refers to not holding nationality at that time. Rendering Sect. 9.2.A meaningless, so why even leave it in there. 

Would suggest then that Auro jr will actually be eligible for Canada if he gets citizenship then too. 


Edited by IrishCanadian - 27 Feb 2021 at 3:38pm
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Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://img.fifa.com/image/upload/gv5axxtvu2aydszqfiw6.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj7tJ3C7InvAhWRN8AKHWByBfgQFjAAegQIBBAD&usg=AOvVaw37R-gW2wJTvHJkziJ58jfT

This is the relevant document. Johansson now qualifies under Article 9, Section 2, Subsection b.

With regard to the additional requirements set out in part iv of subsection b, he qualifies under Article 7, Section 1, Subsection c (grandparent born in Ireland).

I realise that's a very technical answer written in legalese, but that's the answer.
Thanks very much, that’s exactly what I was looking for. 

That is one hot mess of a document though. Sect. 9.2 A refers to having to hold nationality at the time of the youth cap and then sect 9.2 B refers to not holding nationality at that time. Rendering Sect. 9.2.A meaningless, so why even leave it in there. 

Would suggest then that Auro jr will actually be eligible for Canada if he gets citizenship then too. 

It’s not very clear, but I think section A refers to internationals who have played an A or full international 

Section d opens some interesting doors for naturalization. If you lose citizenship for a country because of govt action, I suppose you can play for any other country that will give you citizenship. I wonder if that includes countries that don’t permit dual nationality (like Japan, for instance).
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

Having said all that, while he does appear to be eligible under the new rules, he also needs to actually want to declare for us. It sounded from the interview he gave that he was still open to all three countries at this point. He probably needs to make that decision first of all.


And with the U21's comp starting in March, you'd think a young lad would want to look to be featuring in one of the squads if they'd have him.  To hear him say he hasn't thought about it since moving to Spain seems odd after the lengths he went to beforehand to declare for us.

I'm not suggesting he'd get into our U21 squad at this stage but he's just turned 20 so will have (if I am correct) one more U21s campaign in him but after that, it's senior caps or no caps so I'd not be hanging around.
This campaign will be Johansson's last one at underage level. Interestingly all three of his countries are in the same qualifying group.
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If I was the lad I would back off international football too. or at least talking about it to press. It has been a huge distraction for him during the most important phase of his career in terms of development. 
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Supposedly Nathan Redmond is on a list of players looking to switch to Jamaica, If true Why we aren't busting a gut to get him to declare for us is beyond me
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Cant believe he is only 26. 
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Cant believe he is only 26. 

Yeah, he's one of those players you just assume is about 30-32 given how long he's been around
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If it has not been said on here before, according to Wikipedia (definitely true) Anthony Gordon who's on loan from Everton at Preston qualifies for us and Scotland through the Granny rule.  Well thought of at Everton and signed a 5 year deal last season.  

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Does look a good player no doubt about it would be a a great player for Ireland don't know if he ever be good enough to be a starter for England with the attacking players they have now
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

https://twitter.com/chrisbowerbank/status/1367086193939271683

Supposedly Nathan Redmond is on a list of players looking to switch to Jamaica, If true Why we aren't busting a gut to get him to declare for us is beyond me
I work with his uncle. I will see what he says.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

https://twitter.com/chrisbowerbank/status/1367086193939271683

Supposedly Nathan Redmond is on a list of players looking to switch to Jamaica, If true Why we aren't busting a gut to get him to declare for us is beyond me
I work with his uncle. I will see what he says.
Is his uncle any good?
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

https://twitter.com/chrisbowerbank/status/1367086193939271683

Supposedly Nathan Redmond is on a list of players looking to switch to Jamaica, If true Why we aren't busting a gut to get him to declare for us is beyond me
I work with his uncle. I will see what he says.
Is his uncle any good?
I don't think he is eligible.
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Originally posted by savo01 savo01 wrote:

If it has not been said on here before, according to Wikipedia (definitely true) Anthony Gordon who's on loan from Everton at Preston qualifies for us and Scotland through the Granny rule.  Well thought of at Everton and signed a 5 year deal last season.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Gordon_ - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Gordon_(footballer) 
Yes we should follow up on Anthony Gordon 100%. He is a class young player. What connection has he to us do you know? 
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

https://twitter.com/chrisbowerbank/status/1367086193939271683

Supposedly Nathan Redmond is on a list of players looking to switch to Jamaica, If true Why we aren't busting a gut to get him to declare for us is beyond me

26?? I'd have said 30/31

Probably a stronger chance of qualifying for a WC with Jamaica than us if they get all them lads on board to be be fair
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