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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1663 |
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Nonetheless, Lavery has a real chance of developing into a really good player; as much as the players you list have a chance of not making it. Shame that potential isn't to our benefit, particularly as it seemed a couple of years ago that he was keen on playing for us. The more quality, or young and potentially high-quality, players that we have, to state the obvious, the better.
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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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I don't think Lavery is any more likely to make it at the top level than someone like Glen McAuley to be honest, and McAuley couldn't even make our under 19s this year, let alone the senior team.
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NIGreenWall
Phil Babb Joined: 25 Sep 2017 Location: Norn Iron Status: Offline Points: 42 |
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As for the IFA attempting to recuit Jimmy Dunne, Michael O'Neill was spoken to by Jimmy's agent who was an ex NI international and informed of his eligibility and was told that Jimmy would be interested in having a conversation with him, after they had met for coffee, the agent then leaked the info to the press, to put pressure on the FAI to call him up and it worked so fair play to his agent. As for Michael O'Connor, it was he who contacted the IFA and declared he was eligible and wanted to switch, the IFA had no idea he was even eligible, i believe all his documentation was gathered and he was then called up to an FAI training camp in the meantime and he then asked for the paperwork to be withdrawn. Whether either player had ever any intention to switch i have my doubts, i think both were using the IFA to put pressure on the FAI to pick them and good luck to the both of them. Personally i would prefer NI didn't speak to any player who has played for the ROI at any level. Brown's mother is from Belfast according to reports and comes from an Irish background, so their maybe a chance with him, although i have my doubts as he informed the IFA of his eligibility and not the FAI. As i have posted before you have no chance with McAlmont he has been with NI since he was 14, his family are from a unionist background, he has openly said for many years that it is his dream to play for NI. |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1663 |
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Thanks for that info re Brown and McAlmont.
I'm not aware of the circumstances of O'Connor being picked for NI. However I had thought that Dunne was approached by McPhee, a coach on O'Neill's staff, who was also a coach at Hearts when Dunne was playing well there.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Some nonsense in this thread by the usual suspects.
Jimmy Dunne has only played 13 times in 9 and a half months, 6 of those in a very leaky Sunderland defence, there is absolutely no chance he's going to be starting in a competitive match anytime soon thus remains eligible for either National side whether he sits on the bench or not. Time is on his side however. And there's the usual crap of guesswork that he's eligible because of his name regarding Ciaron Brown - His nan and his mother's from Belfast, he's born in England. There's zero evidence that he's actually eligible!!
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9534 |
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If his grandmother and his mother are from Belfast, then there's a 100% chance he's "actually eligible"?
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We're decent enough..
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JoxerDaly
Liam Brady Joined: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 1272 |
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Time will tell but what ive seen of Lavery I think he will have a great career
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Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Online Points: 10695 |
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Multiple league titles with Linfield??!!
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giveittochristie
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 458 |
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Going back (sorry) to the whole Ryan Johansson thing. I noticed last night Hadergonaj from Huddersfield played for Kosovo, despite having a whole host of underage caps and even a full cap (in a friendly) for Switzerland.
I checked his wiki and it says he received his Kosovan passport in May of this year, so never held one while playing for Switzerland. I really can't see why Johansson cannot play for us with recent similar precedents such as this.
Edited by giveittochristie - 11 Sep 2019 at 1:05pm |
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Donegalman
Liam Brady Joined: 16 Jun 2015 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 1650 |
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Kosovo is a completely different story as far as I know since they only joined FIFA recently there’s still a bit of leeway for players to join
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Kosovo is entirely different as it is a new FIFA nation and they allowed any eligible player the option to switch to them. The lad who scored in the first minute last night, Berisha, has twenty caps for Norway.
If the Basques, for example, became an independent nation, at least in footballing terms, the likes of Lorentz and the entire Bilbao team would become eligible; no matter how many caps they may have for Spain.
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giveittochristie
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 458 |
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I know of Kosovo's 'special' status but pretty sure it wouldnt apply in this case - he got caps for Switzerland after he was able to switch. Players cannot continue to switch for the rest of their careers I would think - otherwise Shaqiri and Xhaka will probably do so in their mid 30s.
Edit: You can tell i'm bored in work - here's an example:
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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The answer to your own question is in your own URL you provided. The cap he gained for Switzerland post-Kosovan eligibility was a friendly cap against Belarus therefore never fully tied himself to the Swiss.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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He was only capped in a friendly after being able to switch, Kosovo’s status meant he went back to scratch as far as eligibility was concerned and had his switch still available.
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DeclanDaly
Ray Houghton Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Location: Boston, USA Status: Offline Points: 3254 |
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It’s pretty maddening when you see the Brazilian lads turning out for Bulgaria last night and even China capping a naturalized Brazilian this week. The rules are absurd, and we always seem to come out on the wrong side of them. Even in our efforts to cap underage prospects who have grown up in Ireland from an early age (Maxi Kouogan at Waterford being at example)
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giveittochristie
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 21 Oct 2015 Status: Offline Points: 458 |
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He was still getting u21 caps in 2016, though...from the decision to allow the other players to switch it appears the 'magic' date was 13 May 2016 "In particular, the Bureau of the Players' Status Committee wished to emphasise that the players concerned had not represented their previous association after 13 May 2016, the date of admission of the FFK to FIFA. In other words, they never chose to play for their previous association when they had the opportunity to choose to play for the representative teams of the FFK. The Bureau of the Players’ Status Committee indicated that this was a key element in its decision on the matter." Either way, im not sure FIFAs position holds up to scrutiny if challenged properly by the FAI.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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So he switched from playing u-21, and one senior friendly, to Kosovo. I am struggling to understand why you are struggling! It is consistent with Rice and Grealish, for example.
If his Swiss cap was in a competitive game he couldn’t have switched.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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I'm also confused to why it's confusing
He played a bunch of U21 games with the Swiss Kosovo became a member state He played a friendly game for the Swiss which makes him still eligible for either nation He decided to get a Kosovan passport
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