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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Why do you need a source ffs other than instigating another pointless argument between the 2 of you. He's played for England at every underage level and he's as Scouse as The Beatles. That's about it
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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Coady himself. The question has been asked (and answered) numerous times already on here btw.
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We're decent enough..
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Edited by Luis Amor Rodriguez - 14 Jan 2019 at 10:50pm |
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Did he tell you himself or was it reported somewhere?
I've seen it asked, but not seen it answered on this forum... |
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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He was asked on Soccer AM and confirmed he wasn't eligible, it had been common knowledge for years previously though.
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We're decent enough..
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Howdo
500 Club la la la Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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Jason Byrne asked him on Soccer Am a few weeks back and he said he hadn’t |
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39823 |
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There's a promising youngster playing for West Ham who is eligible for The EIRE. Declan Rice. Meant to be good. Has anyone looked into it?
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Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more...
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
Liam Brady Joined: 19 Sep 2016 Location: Harchester Status: Offline Points: 1664 |
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Cheers. Shame.
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Donegalman
Liam Brady Joined: 16 Jun 2015 Location: Donegal Status: Offline Points: 1650 |
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Haven't heard of him but how does he qualify for us? We could make sh*t jokes about his surname.
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coyne
Paul McGrath Joined: 17 Aug 2013 Location: Sunderland Status: Offline Points: 15881 |
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Or stalk his Instagram for every ‘like’ he makes. We’ve ploughed through every Social Media he uses
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DeclanDaly
Ray Houghton Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Location: Boston, USA Status: Offline Points: 3254 |
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Where did this rumour come from GR? Haven’t seen anything about it elsewhere. Fine player
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You asked if I'd be anyone from history, fact or fiction, dead or alive:
I said "I'd be Tony Cascarino, circa 1995" |
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Green rebel
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 02 Oct 2018 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 152 |
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Where did this rumour come from GR? Haven’t seen anything about it elsewhere. Fine player [/QUOTEHis older brother played with Sunrab in London at school boys level and it was mentioned to me at the time he had irish connections with his grandparents,I'm still trying to find out is he a generation out,normally I could be told there's lads with irish connections but with no evidence,its the spelling of his surname makes me believe there's some truth and the Sunrab coach that told me is normally spot on.A bit of a messer when he was younger but who wasn't and has been very unlucky with injuries,can't believe he has never looked at by England at any underage level.]
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Fanny MaGee
500 Club la la la Joined: 13 Feb 2015 Location: Oirland Status: Offline Points: 538 |
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West Ham are after a Scottish born lad playing at Bristol Rovers called Michael Kelly, there's surely a link there. He's a full back and has played under age football for the jocks up to U-17.
https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-west-ham-open-talks-to-sign-full-back/ Edited by Fanny MaGee - 15 Jan 2019 at 9:36am |
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10726 |
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What's his connection to Ireland ?
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Danny Invincible
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 21 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 307 |
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There really wasn't. That's like saying that, say, Ciaran Clark's eligibility would be "arguable" simply if someone raised a doubt over it. He's eligible under article 5, as he's an Irish national from birth, just like Kearns, who is also eligible under article 5, as he's an Irish national from birth. Kearns' eligibility was even formally approved by FIFA's Players' Status Committee, as he made a formal switch of association, so what was "arguable" about it? Just because someone might have attempted to erroneously argue against it based on an evidently incorrect interpretation, it doesn't actually mean it was actually arguable. It was crazy for the IFA to bring the case and crazy for King & Gowdy to take it on (although they did probably make a quare buck out of it).
I didn't tell you I was a lawyer. I don't practice. I simply clarified that I had a law degree because you seemed to think I was unfamiliar with the notion of different approaches to the interpretation of laws.
That's not what I said. Clearly, in the case of the FAI, the administrative territory of the association does not align with the territory over which Irish nationality law applies, as the administrative territory of the FAI is 26 counties, while Irish nationality law applies over 32 counties.
When are you referring to when to talk of "the period the rules were drafted"? 1962, 2004 or 2008? Players from the north like Mark McKeever, Ger Doherty and Ger Crossley were playing for the FAI before even the Good Friday Agreement took effect.
Because that person would be an Irish national by descent and Irish nationality is the nationality of the FAI. The intended purpose of the introduction of the present-day article 7 conditions was to prevent countries naturalising players for footballing purposes. This is evident if you read the Kearns case or FIFA's Circular no. 901. It wasn't to prevent players who were nationals by parental or grand-parental descent. These players have a "clear connection".
What are you talking about? What do you mean that the FAI might have "sought to normalise things" with Barton? The idea that the FAI might have been happy to risk punishment and reputational damage by playing an ineligible player in four European Under-21 Championship qualifiers, just because the punishment would be less severe than if it were at senior level, is ludicrous. Why would they even do that?
The DCU would have intimate knowledge of our players' eligibility and would be in direct communication with FIFA and be knowledgeable of their processes. Are you suggesting that FIFA have no process for checking and verifying the eligibility of international players, unless a player goes through a formal switch? Whose word would you regard as binding then? FIFA's? Sure you evidently refuse to accept that even their word was binding in the Kearns' case when you talk of his eligibility having been "arguable" until CAS re-clarified matters for the IFA. An FAI confirmation would certainly confirm that the idea that Terri had been peddling at one point - that the FAI supposedly learned from the Kearns judgment that players such as Barton weren't actually eligible - is nonsense. Anyhow, I got an email back from the FAI's DCU today, but it didn't go into specific details on Barton (for confidentiality reasons, I presume). They said: "Unfortunately we can’t go into the specific detail surrounding individual players applications for a change of Association." This is interesting, because I hadn't mentioned anything about a switch of association in the email I had sent them, so is it to imply that Barton underwent a formal switch? I've emailed back to see if I can get clarification on that, but if it is the case he had a switch request approved by FIFA's Players' Status Committee, then that ought to be the final nail in the coffin for your conspiracy theory. Edited by Danny Invincible - 15 Jan 2019 at 11:13am |
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Stimpy
Liam Brady Joined: 01 May 2014 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1104 |
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Not sure if it has been mentioned but is Matt O'Riley eligible? Plays for Fulham U23s, drawing interest from Stuttgart, RB Leipzig and Borussia Dortmund.
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10726 |
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What's his connection to Ireland ?
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daveyc
500 Club la la la Joined: 23 Feb 2014 Location: dublin Status: Offline Points: 672 |
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his middle name Matthew Sean O'Riley
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