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DeclanDaly 
Ray Houghton 
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Every fecking thread
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Davey Langan 
I’m not very bright. Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 939 |
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Posted: 17 Dec 2015 at 12:00am |
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From a purely scientific point of view asking every footballer who could potentially be eligible for Ireland over and over again to play for us until they give an affirmative answer may make sense.
For some of us though 'irrational emotions' such as pride, dignity and honour still have a place when it comes to following our national football team and persisting to try and recruit a player who has made it clear we are their second choice country at best is actually insulting to above irrational feelings. I think most football fans in most countries in the world would actually share these sentiments, its just sad that in this particular country that sense of pride seems to have been lost by a majority of Ireland supporters who see the ROI shirt as just another club jersey to throw at anybody they can sign up to wear it. |
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schillaci
500 Club la la la
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 8:13pm |
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I have no problem picking the best players, regardless of all loyalty. If someone like Jamie Vardy on a hot run of form decides in May that he wants to play for Ireland then Shane Long would be on the bench in France.
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Doyler1993
Liam Brady
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 8:10pm |
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Its not begging though, its just asking him a simple question if he wants to play for Ireland or not. If he says no leave it there and move on, if he says yes he is another option for the manager to pick from. I dont think anyone is calling for him to be included in the first team but no harm getting him to swap over and tying him to us and see how he develops. If he becomes a decent player we have another option to pick from and if he doesnt progress as expected so what. England are doing this at all their underage age groups by picking kids with dual nationalities to try and build their options for the future, even wales done it with a 16 year old when england started sniffing around. This is the way football has gone with the movement of people around the world and it means you have to be quicker off the mark to get a player as they could be eligible for 2 or 3 other countries.
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IT’S NO USE BOILING YOUR CABBAGE TWICE
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Bohsfan84
Liam Brady
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 7:15pm |
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I'm sure I'm not the only person that doesn't see the logic in going with our hand begging to a player that has shown his lack of commitment once before already.
He wants to play for England. If he wants to play for Ireland again because England don't want him let him approach the FAI. Isn't that the recommendable approach? He's played 4 games for Wolves. It would be ridiculous to have him come in and take the place of somebody who wants it and has worked for it. Let him play some games and show some level of commitment. Have some bloody pride in ourselves for once. |
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depechemode
Davey Langan
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 6:27pm |
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Ridiculous comparison indeed
We all know he would go to Rovers and not bohs |
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Devrozex
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 4:55pm |
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Bizarre comparison alright. There is a realistic chance of this chap being interested in playing for Ireland (seeing as he has done previously) whereas clearly there is no realistic chance of Ronaldo going to Bohs.
Anyway players should always be scoped out and their interest levels gauged. With even the likes of England casting their net far and wide these days it would be silly for us to not do likewise. It's all about having options at the end of the day.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton
I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9553 |
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 4:48pm |
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Ridiculous comparison, but yes, there is no downside to doing it and if they wanted to I doubt anyone would get too upset.
Graham etc. are eligible for Ireland, and in his particular case has played for Ireland before. He'd be a good edition to our U-21 squad and we'd be foolhardy in the extreme to not at least ask him if he wants to play for us. |
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We're decent enough..
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Bohsfan84
Liam Brady
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 4:22pm |
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There is no logical downside to Bohemians asking Cristiano Ronaldo if he wants to sign for them. Doesn't mean they should do it.
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depechemode
Davey Langan
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 4:08pm |
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Agree 100% |
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AbuAbu
500 Club la la la
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 3:50pm |
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O'kane doesn't seem to be getting much of a look in at club level so I am wondering why the big clamor for him to get a shot in the friendlies. Of course not playing first team doesn't rule him out given our slender resources ........... i haven't seen him play so i am not knocking the guy as Miriam would say i am GENUINELY just wondering!
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It's not me it's you:-)
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Godot
500 Club la la la
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Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 1:52pm |
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Arter and Judge are the big two that needs more game-time in the friendlies
O'Kane doesn't seem as important to Bournemouth as Arter |
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 11:57pm |
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And the emotional arguments rear their head again... Ask Graham and everyone else like him. It doesn't mean they have to get a call-up straight away to our senior or even underage squads, but ask them and see what they have to say. There's no rational reason why you wouldn't seek to maximise your potential resources, and the only way for us to do that is to ask these guys if they're open to representing us.
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We're decent enough..
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savo01
Liam Brady
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Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 10:12pm |
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I've no problem with English born players playing for us especially one who has already played for us underage. We have Alan Judge, Eunan O'Kane, Harry Arter etc who have a grand total of 1 cap between them and these 3 are the guys we should be looking at before hinting at calling up a young lad with 5 games in The Championship...... [/QUOTE] Agreed Green Devil. I've no issue calling up anyone from anywhere but there's a lot in front of him for a start. And I don't believe it would be fair or good for our existing underage squads that we go chasing a lad who's left our underage set up for something they perceive to be better. We have to be careful with this as we really could end up being "Englund B" . |
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Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand
Johnny Giles. Ireland Mick McCarthy, Stephen Staunton Cascarino Tony Galvin, Niall Quinn Packie doesn't let em in North of Ireland South of Ireland Only one can go |
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Ronnie Whelan 
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Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 10:11pm |
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We have enough Irish lads to pick from than waiting to see if a lad who played for Ireland then England and now see if he comes back again
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 10:05pm |
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I've no problem with English born players playing for us especially one who has already played for us underage. We have Alan Judge, Eunan O'Kane, Harry Arter etc who have a grand total of 1 cap between them and these 3 are the guys we should be looking at before hinting at calling up a young lad with 5 games in The Championship......
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Ronnie Whelan
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Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 9:59pm |
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We should have some respect for ourselves, and our jersey.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 15 Dec 2015 at 9:53pm |
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He hasn't even played 10 matches in The Championship lets not get ahead of ourselves. Lets call a spade a spade the Irish under 21 squad would be more suitable for him at the moment.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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