England v Ireland - Match Thread

we could put out a better team at present than the world cup 2002 team but our manager doesnt want to know about it .

So its ended 1 all, yeah.

Kerrzy wrote: eire77 wrote: Kerrzy wrote: No Im a realist. I see a really strong group of players there You're on the disco biscuits there! We've an average bunch of players who play for teams in the lower reaches of a league which is technically inferior to most other major European leagues. And a fair sprinkle who play in the lower division too. Our current team isn't a patch on any of the other Irish teams which qualified for major tournaments. The closest would be the ageing USA 94 team which still had Keane, McGrath, Aldridge & Houghton to name just 4. We have a very strong back 4.  Tentatively say we have our best LB in over a decade, it has been a real problem area.  Coleman - dont need to elaborate O Shea - Back in his best position (by a country mile), multiple trophy winner is possibly in his Irish form of his life The only problem area is O Shea's partner On the wing whilst it is impossible to replace Duff of a decade ago we have strength in depth. McClean, Brady, Pilkington are 3 promising players in the PL and none even started the other night. We have a centre mid that apparently can pick his club if papers are to be believed. Again I wont count any chickens but he can be as lucrative a midfielder we've had since Keane. Gibson if and when hes back has had the season of his career. Again it's impossible to replace Keane of a few years ago but Long is no slouch and Walters isnt a bad deputy. Did I mention Hoolahan? This is a better team than we had in the last 2 campaigns when we had a passenger in Killer/Ward at LB, and RB in O Shea. A poor midfield (to say the least) and an out of form Doyle/Folan/Best etc. Thats before you debate the merits of a seemingly out of sorts Given and Sledge.

Good post. Completely agree.
We all know we'll never be Germany but we've always shown we're in the running to finish second and be in the mix for the plyoffs which is about as much as we can realistically.Finishing 2nd even if we ultimately fail to qualify is for me still a good achievement for a country of our size and our relatively small pool of talent.Even if our players are playing for the teams in the bottom half of the EPL, they're still playing top flight football in one of the most popular leagues in the world.

I'm not trying to bash trap but I genuinely think we could be even in a better position in this group if there was a change of formation and certain personnel.I don't think there's any real doubt over the last 2 years under trap that teams have copped on to us and by sticking with 2 in the middle against the opposition's teams 3 when we come up against a 5 man midfield, we're always going to be up against it really. I find under trap we're not giving ourselves an equal chance by not playing to our strengths everytime we play and that's the sickening thing. I'm really looking forward to seeing a fresh approach by whoever comes in next. (hopefully McCarthy will come back)

Edited by irishmufc - 01 Jun 2013 at 11:01am

wessi wrote: gufc and horsebox ye are pathetic , ye think this forum is only for those 100% behind trap i dont give a sh*t what ye post up here so why should ye care what i post ? fcuk off if ye dont like it .

You can't even spell your own name.

Then you try and justify the mis-spelling by claiming your a West Ham supporter.

Even though your previous name was city4life.

Your complete inability to back up any of your points just proves that your the dumbest person ever to grace this forum.

And you can stop sending me PM's calling me a prick too.

You and Rain Paulo are the 2 reason why a lot of people have stopped posting on this forum.

It's an all time low for this forum with so many decent posters staying away.

Kerrzy wrote: eire77 wrote: Kerrzy wrote: No Im a realist. I see a really strong group of players there You're on the disco biscuits there! We've an average bunch of players who play for teams in the lower reaches of a league which is technically inferior to most other major European leagues. And a fair sprinkle who play in the lower division too. Our current team isn't a patch on any of the other Irish teams which qualified for major tournaments. The closest would be the ageing USA 94 team which still had Keane, McGrath, Aldridge & Houghton to name just 4. We have a very strong back 4.  Tentatively say we have our best LB in over a decade, it has been a real problem area.  Coleman - dont need to elaborate O Shea - Back in his best position (by a country mile), multiple trophy winner is possibly in his Irish form of his life The only problem area is O Shea's partner On the wing whilst it is impossible to replace Duff of a decade ago we have strength in depth. McClean, Brady, Pilkington are 3 promising players in the PL and none even started the other night. We have a centre mid that apparently can pick his club if papers are to be believed. Again I wont count any chickens but he can be as lucrative a midfielder we've had since Keane. Gibson if and when hes back has had the season of his career. Again it's impossible to replace Keane of a few years ago but Long is no slouch and Walters isnt a bad deputy. Did I mention Hoolahan? This is a better team than we had in the last 2 campaigns when we had a passenger in Killer/Ward at LB, and RB in O Shea. A poor midfield (to say the least) and an out of form Doyle/Folan/Best etc. Thats before you debate the merits of a seemingly out of sorts Given and Sledge.

I see you conveniently left our McGeady who has proved to be a good player for both club and country yet include Brady who has done nothing for Ireland (yet) and only starting to prove it for a championship side.

Pilkington - a player who has held out for an England call up for so long and has yet again failed to show up for us. He should not be included in any discussion about the Ireland team until he commits to the team.

thanks

if it makes sense to play wes and pilkington together it wont happen under trap .

this forum has gone to the dogs 

horsebox wrote: wessi wrote: gufc and horsebox ye are pathetic , ye think this forum is only for those 100% behind trap i dont give a sh*t what ye post up here so why should ye care what i post ? fcuk off if ye dont like it . You can't even spell your own name. Then you try and justify the mis-spelling by claiming your a West Ham supporter. Even though your previous name was city4life. Your complete inability to back up any of your points just proves that your the dumbest person ever to grace this forum. And you can stop sending me PM's calling me a prick too. You and Rain Paulo are the 2 reason why a lot of people have stopped posting on this forum. It's an all time low for this forum with so many decent posters staying away.

You give me far to much credit....maybe the forum just doesn't intrest people anymore...I get PM's a lot and you are only person that ever has a go horse.
But you have a go off anyone who doesn't agree withyou or back Trap.....I'd be fairly confident you were bullied at school and were billy no mates