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Originally posted by Huggybeer Huggybeer wrote:

Lads any suggestions on how to unfreeze an irish water meter
no water to house this morning, got drive redone last year and told contractor about it happening before so he buried pipes a bit deeper and insulated them.

so im pretty sure the freeze is on the footpath outside the house. any suggestions?

Other than dig it up and get some sort of heaters on it I can’t see what else 
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Council came you,, yep its the water meter is frozen on footpath, nothing we can do, WTAF seriously,, how many millions in tax payer money is wasted on these things and the morons that are still employed by this body,, lad said they were installed with no insulation
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Originally posted by Huggybeer Huggybeer wrote:

Council came you,, yep its the water meter is frozen on footpath, nothing we can do, WTAF seriously,, how many millions in tax payer money is wasted on these things and the morons that are still employed by this body,, lad said they were installed with no insulation

Iirc you don’t normally insulate them but they are usually down far enough to avoid the frost 
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Not for DIY but not sure of suitable thread.

Anybody rough idea of cost for a BER assessor?
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Not for DIY but not sure of suitable thread.

Anybody rough idea of cost for a BER assessor?
last time I got it done it was €150

There is no set fee for a BER assessment, so it is best to shop around with at least three suppliers for the best price. The cost of a BER assessment for an apartment can cost approximately €150. The cost for a standard house, penthouse or duplex can cost between €200 and €300.


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I actually just saw that you can request a quote on tradesman.ie too
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Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?



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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?


I got a 48 inch by 16 inch basic stainless steel cylinder with a top entry immersion and a single coil in Brooks for 450 a couple of weeks ago. I was quoted 860 by another builders providers for something similar and most other places I looked were up around 750 - 900. 

The 16 inch cylinder was a bit narrower than the original copper cylinder it replaced but it stored 150 litres which was enough for what I needed. 10 year guarantee as well, the last copper cylinder I put in was made by joule and had a 1 year guarantee. 
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Originally posted by tapfit2004 tapfit2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?


I got a 48 inch by 16 inch basic stainless steel cylinder with a top entry immersion and a single coil in Brooks for 450 a couple of weeks ago. I was quoted 860 by another builders providers for something similar and most other places I looked were up around 750 - 900. 

The 16 inch cylinder was a bit narrower than the original copper cylinder it replaced but it stored 150 litres which was enough for what I needed. 10 year guarantee as well, the last copper cylinder I put in was made by joule and had a 1 year guarantee. 

Thanks for the advise. Assume fit costs were extra?

Is copper in the old one recyclable or worth anything?

I'm more concerned about future proofing what I put in.
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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by tapfit2004 tapfit2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?


I got a 48 inch by 16 inch basic stainless steel cylinder with a top entry immersion and a single coil in Brooks for 450 a couple of weeks ago. I was quoted 860 by another builders providers for something similar and most other places I looked were up around 750 - 900. 

The 16 inch cylinder was a bit narrower than the original copper cylinder it replaced but it stored 150 litres which was enough for what I needed. 10 year guarantee as well, the last copper cylinder I put in was made by joule and had a 1 year guarantee. 

Thanks for the advise. Assume fit costs were extra?

Is copper in the old one recyclable or worth anything?

I'm more concerned about future proofing what I put in.
  Copper will be worth something for sure , as for the above Newry Rep should have a good angle on this one . 
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by tapfit2004 tapfit2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?


I got a 48 inch by 16 inch basic stainless steel cylinder with a top entry immersion and a single coil in Brooks for 450 a couple of weeks ago. I was quoted 860 by another builders providers for something similar and most other places I looked were up around 750 - 900. 

The 16 inch cylinder was a bit narrower than the original copper cylinder it replaced but it stored 150 litres which was enough for what I needed. 10 year guarantee as well, the last copper cylinder I put in was made by joule and had a 1 year guarantee. 

Thanks for the advise. Assume fit costs were extra?

Is copper in the old one recyclable or worth anything?

I'm more concerned about future proofing what I put in.
  Copper will be worth something for sure , as for the above Newry Rep should have a good angle on this one . 


About €50. Coppers €4.70/Kg at the moment.

Probably need to replace our own soon enough, I dont think its ever been done.

I had to do the water tank there a few years ago, was an old galvanized steel one that began leaking, was only after Id drained it and began disconnecting the feed that it literally fell apart at the seams like a cardbox. Was probably weeks / months from a total disaster.
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Exact same Bandwagon. Did that last year changing the bathroom. Weeks away from a problem.

The cylinder is the only piece in the system other than rads the I haven't replaced.

Would be worried about corrosion of the cylinder.
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by tapfit2004 tapfit2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?


I got a 48 inch by 16 inch basic stainless steel cylinder with a top entry immersion and a single coil in Brooks for 450 a couple of weeks ago. I was quoted 860 by another builders providers for something similar and most other places I looked were up around 750 - 900. 

The 16 inch cylinder was a bit narrower than the original copper cylinder it replaced but it stored 150 litres which was enough for what I needed. 10 year guarantee as well, the last copper cylinder I put in was made by joule and had a 1 year guarantee. 

Thanks for the advise. Assume fit costs were extra?

Is copper in the old one recyclable or worth anything?

I'm more concerned about future proofing what I put in.
  Copper will be worth something for sure , as for the above Newry Rep should have a good angle on this one . 


About €50. Coppers €4.70/Kg at the moment.

Probably need to replace our own soon enough, I dont think its ever been done.

I had to do the water tank there a few years ago, was an old galvanized steel one that began leaking, was only after Id drained it and began disconnecting the feed that it literally fell apart at the seams like a cardbox. Was probably weeks / months from a total disaster.

Yeah, I'm an electrician and a friend of mine is a plumber so we fitted it. I got 70 euro for the old cylinder and a few old brass fittings that I had lying around. I rang the scrap dealer and he said he'd give me a few quid more if I took the installation off the cylinder before I brought it to them (probably only a fiver either way). 

I have seen loads of those steel water tanks in attics and still wonder how a lot of them were holding any water at all. We changed one in a house in finglas about 10 years ago, I drained it down until there was about an inch of water left in it and went to move it. The bottom of the tank was like paper it was that thin. We ended up putting old towels in it to get rid of the rest of the water and when I lifted it onto its side I was able to make a hole in the "metal" with my finger. Never seen one as bad and somehow it hadn't been leaking.

Always make sure that you have a lid on the tank in the attic as well. I've seen rats and pigeons floating around in them after they'd tried to take a drink and fell in. You wouldn't want to be washing your teeth with that water. 


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Originally posted by tapfit2004 tapfit2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by tapfit2004 tapfit2004 wrote:

Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Copper cylinder In the hot press coming to the end of its life.

Any one any thoughts on replacing it like for like or going with stainless steel? 

Indirect vented system with cold water tank in the attic in typical three bed built around 1980. Is wired for an immersion.

I had to change the gas boiler last year so will be at least a decade before I will have to change to heat pump (if ever). Would consider future proofing with heat pump ready tank but I don't think that's a runner for now? 

Lastly , planning on putting pv panels on the roof this year with an immersion diverter to heat the water prior to sending surplus to the grids feed in tariff. Any considerations there?




I got a 48 inch by 16 inch basic stainless steel cylinder with a top entry immersion and a single coil in Brooks for 450 a couple of weeks ago. I was quoted 860 by another builders providers for something similar and most other places I looked were up around 750 - 900. 

The 16 inch cylinder was a bit narrower than the original copper cylinder it replaced but it stored 150 litres which was enough for what I needed. 10 year guarantee as well, the last copper cylinder I put in was made by joule and had a 1 year guarantee. 


Thanks for the advise. Assume fit costs were extra?

Is copper in the old one recyclable or worth anything?

I'm more concerned about future proofing what I put in.
  Copper will be worth something for sure , as for the above Newry Rep should have a good angle on this one . 


About €50. Coppers €4.70/Kg at the moment.

Probably need to replace our own soon enough, I dont think its ever been done.

I had to do the water tank there a few years ago, was an old galvanized steel one that began leaking, was only after Id drained it and began disconnecting the feed that it literally fell apart at the seams like a cardbox. Was probably weeks / months from a total disaster.


Yeah, I'm an electrician and a friend of mine is a plumber so we fitted it. I got 70 euro for the old cylinder and a few old brass fittings that I had lying around. I rang the scrap dealer and he said he'd give me a few quid more if I took the installation off the cylinder before I brought it to them (probably only a fiver either way). 

I have seen loads of those steel water tanks in attics and still wonder how a lot of them were holding any water at all. We changed one in a house in finglas about 10 years ago, I drained it down until there was about an inch of water left in it and went to move it. The bottom of the tank was like paper it was that thin. We ended up putting old towels in it to get rid of the rest of the water and when I lifted it onto its side I was able to make a hole in the "metal" with my finger. Never seen one as bad and somehow it hadn't been leaking.

Always make sure that you have a lid on the tank in the attic as well. I've seen rats and pigeons floating around in them after they'd tried to take a drink and fell in. You wouldn't want to be washing your teeth with that water. 




Also if the tin tank in the attic pops your not covered by your house insurance as its considered lack of maintenance

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Wooden floor for a upstairs bedroom any suggestions, like type of wood, the mm, what kind of underlay would I need, the room is only 8ft x 8.5ft, Thumbs Up
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Wooden floor for a upstairs bedroom any suggestions, like type of wood, the mm, what kind of underlay would I need, the room is only 8ft x 8.5ft, Thumbs Up

Use carpet in a bedroom. Timber floors are loud downstairs and cold on your wee toes. 
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