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Landon Donovan
Paul McGrath Sheldon Cooper Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Location: Neutral Zone Status: Offline Points: 15708 |
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I hear there are some bodies in the vacant lots
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JSO
Joe Lapira Hi, I'm barred for life Joined: 07 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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A mate of ours lives and drinks in a pub down the road from there which i can honestly say is even a bit too much for me although i did find the experience most profitable( sold two jumpers and 3 tshirts) and socially beneficial in a weird positive way
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elroy45
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1192 |
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The guards really have no control of the gun crime situation.
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Metal Paul
Roy Keane The Dude Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Location: Arkla Status: Offline Points: 11562 |
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Did you see these two hanging around dude?? |
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"There are no chicks with dicks Johnny, just guys with tits."
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Pipkin
Liam Brady Joined: 07 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1975 |
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Apparently was a case of mistaken identity and this fella is innocent according to front pages of tomorrows papers.
Only said it this morning. Hope he lives. We should bring in a mandatory life sentence for discharge of a gun for the purpose of serious harm or murder. And life being life |
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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Kerrzy, study after study has shown that mandatory sentencing has little or no effect on crime. All that really effects it is increased resources in detection rather than punishment. Criminals think they won't get caught so deterrent sentencing is expensive and somewhat futile. Deterrence policing works much better. I'd rather increase spending on the Gardai by €100m than on the prisons by €100m. You'd see much better results. If the likelihood of getting caught increases, it causes would be criminals to act more rationally and consider the potential consequences of their crimes. And while it might result in increased overcrowding and some people serving shorter sentences, serious criminals (gun criminals, murderers, etc) do get serious sentences and do serve them.
Of course, it could just be that you have a different view of what the criminal justice system should represent and are interested only in making sure those that are caught are locked up for some time and well punished in which case I suppose what I just said doesn't really apply, but each to their own. I prefer to look at it from an economic point of view, albeit that might seem a bit callous. |
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corkery
Ray Houghton Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 4932 |
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Workcamps would put people off crime. Like for example, possession of a gun could get ya five years breaking rocks on Tory Island or something.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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Honey Monster
Moderator Group Semi-Pro Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Location: Brisbane Status: Offline Points: 19720 |
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What a show.
Gunman on the main street in Brisbane today. City was on lock down. Police shot him twice. No sh*t taken over here. Get the cops guns
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McG
Moderator Group SISAO? What the hell is SISAO? Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Christmas Island Status: Online Points: 26990 |
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YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017
AS YOU WERE McGx |
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34857 |
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Kerzy would lynch any man woman or child who was guilty (or even not guilty) of J walking |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Pipkin
Liam Brady Joined: 07 May 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1975 |
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Regardless of effect on crime, I think its better for society that these be sentenced to life. If they killed once in this manner, they wont have any hesitation doing so again. Secondly, I do think it would have some effect in a country like Ireland where life means about 15 years max at the moment. That is certainly no deterrent. The prospects of never seeing the outside world would have to have an impact. Unrelated; heard from a fella today that would be in the know in GAA circles that 1 of the Crossmaglen players that played in the AI semi a couple of weeks ago is a prime suspect for the death of the Detective EDIT: Not a hope HB. J walking is a must for those that dont drive
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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I agree that a 15 year sentence for life is no deterrent. However, ANY sentencing policy has pretty much no deterrent effect: how could it if the perpetrators of crime think they are going to get away with it?
And sentencing people simply so they cannot commit crimes is a very slippery road to be going down.... soon you'll end up imprisoning people who have done nothing simply because they might commit crimes. Also, the rate of imprisonment has very little effect on the rate of violent crime. Like I said, most of my objections are economic. Imprisonment makes little or no financial sense and has little or no impact on crime rates; increasing detection rates and letting it be known that detection rates are increasing is the best thing that can be done. Otherwise, f**kers act with impunity, which is where we share common concern. |
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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Nearly all crime statisitcs have reduced. Could also indicate that cutbacks mean less offeneces are listed.
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bis en die
Ronnie Whelan Joined: 28 Jan 2013 Status: Offline Points: 36 |
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Hey Seany Sherlock, those stats are a few years out of date
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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Most up to date I could find on cso website
Found more recent figures will edit table there. Edited by seanyshuffler - 09 Mar 2013 at 10:22pm |
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Metal Paul
Roy Keane The Dude Joined: 21 Nov 2009 Location: Arkla Status: Offline Points: 11562 |
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Is 'wapons' a word??
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"There are no chicks with dicks Johnny, just guys with tits."
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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I left out the e when I was typing it. Thanks for highlighting it though
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