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Jackthelad
Jack Charlton It's OUR year Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9270 |
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I'm upset on this thread.
Not 1 laugh did I get from my "Toni and utterly kroosified" post. I'm obviously my own biggest fan, was laughin my arse off posting it. |
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Oh Poland we loved you.....
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irishmufc
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Out of interest lads and Im not comparing them btw but I wonder what Brady was like when he was Wilsheres age. Was Brady a slow developer or was he consistantly classy from day one?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Clonbhoy
Roy Keane AKA Sir Basil Butterpeas Esquire Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Location: Iarthar ChorcaĆ Status: Offline Points: 13976 |
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and that is all
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Biffo
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He's only young and he's just back from a lengthy injury he looks a real raw talent that'll develop into a very good player.
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Clonbhoy
Roy Keane AKA Sir Basil Butterpeas Esquire Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Location: Iarthar ChorcaĆ Status: Offline Points: 13976 |
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What Ken is saying is spot on. Wilshere is very erratic, his passing especially,not enough killer passes either. his positioning is non existent. He never knows when to stay or when to run, he regularly goes missing for periods when the team needs him too. He obviously has some talent but I really don't see him as anything but a decent centre midfielder. calling him 'Arsenal's best player' is baffling. cazorla, Arteta and even Walcott are far more important to Arsenal
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keitho5
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Wilshere is a better player than cleverly imo
I like cleverly doesnt boss games as much he'd like but he has potential to be quality Wilshere is a quality baller, not as good as sky would have you believe, but he is englands best midfielder at the minute( as in the national team not in the EPL)
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Oooooooooohhhhhh yes sir......
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Vivakenbarlow
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Yes i think fergie could mould him into a more complete player Wouldnt part with any more than 20m for him though If he wasnt english you could prob get him for about 10m Would prefer someone like moutinho tbh
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It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it
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Andkend
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Ken would you welcome him to old Trafford? |
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irishmufc
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Would agree with this. It works at United with Carrick/Cleverly in behind Giggs and Wilshere can play that deeper role. |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Vivakenbarlow
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Wilshere is clearly talented no ones denying that
He gets caught too far forward though like is he a midfielder or is he playing in behind the striker? Doesnt seem to know himself Trying too hard to be roy of the rovers bombing forward at every opportunity looking for the glory Needs more discipline in his game and as i said gives away the ball too cheaply at times
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It took City 44 years to win the league and 10 months to lose it
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irishmufc
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I think ye should take into account that Cleverly is not playing in his favoured role imo but the deeper role fergie has him in to suit the team so it's a bit of an unfair comparison.
Didn't Cleverly take free kicks for Wigan when he was there? I'd like to see him in behind the strikers because he does have a good shot which he doesn't utilize enough imo
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Trapped
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67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's)
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bhob
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Yeah but i dont think Cleverley would stick out in the Arsenal side. He'd be more like Ramsey if you ask me. I'd take Wilshere over Cleverley any day
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Roberto Baggio
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Wilshere is more talented end of
Put him in that United squad in the summer and you will all be calling him the leagues best midfielder in less than 6 months
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Trapped
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So on the one hand you're saying Cleverley has the advantage of playing with better players, but on the other hand you're giving Wilshere credit for sticking out in what is a weaker team. That's a bit of a paradox.
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67% points to games ratio at the last Euro's (better than Portugal's)
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irishmufc
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I don't think Cleverly has Wilsheres range of passing. Cleverly is naturally a more attacking player than the deeper position fergie has him in. Wilshere's plays further up the pitch. Cleverly has got a good shot but he has a serious reluctance to shoot when the shot is on through the middle. He's nearly too unselfish. Wilshere has more ability to influence a game than Cleverly IMO. Id like to see how they get on together in the England team. Id imagine Cleverly would play in behind him as the holding midfielder. I do think Wilshere is a better player though not by much
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Roberto Baggio
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that posts just a little bit bitter
Odd that a comment praising Jack Wilshere has turned into comparing him to Tom Cleverly, and two Man City players that play in different positions
Come on lads, you are allowed to admit a player at a different club is good Edited by Roberto Baggio - 20 Feb 2013 at 12:08pm |
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bhob
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I don't see how they're different, both like to play in the attacking midfield kind of role. Cleverley has massive advantages though as he plays for a better team and with better more experienced players. Wilshere does not have those luxuries. He also missed a full season last year through injuries. He's by far Arsenal's best player. You would not say the same about Cleverley
Edited by bhob - 20 Feb 2013 at 11:57am |
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