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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baldrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2013 at 5:55pm
Second world war came after the recovery but there was huge recovery after the 2nd world war  too.  


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote sid waddell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 May 2013 at 6:24pm
Originally posted by David McWilliams David McWilliams wrote:


Reductio ad absurdum.

Friedman argued for a negative income tax and subsidised or healthcare or a voucher for the poor.
If someone is affecting your health by emitting toxins, there's a court system whereby you can sue them professionally and personally. 
But that's what libertarianism is - reductio ad absurdum. 

The language of "freedom" is basically a front for corporate interests. Friedman argued that companies had no social responibilities beyond making profits for their shareholders. If there are no environmental regulations, companies ain't gonna be breaking any laws, so who are you going to sue? Building regulations? Pah. Don't need them. 

Libertarianism, the polar opposite of communism, is in many ways actually a product of communism - Ayn Rand grew up in Petrograd around the time of the revolution and her ideology was in many ways far more extreme than the communists. Ayn Rand is, rightly, a figure of fun in Europe, but in the US her ideology is quite mainstream - Paul Ryan, the Republican VP candidate, cites her as his inspiration. 

Once you believe in the notion of the type of freedom libertarians believe in you can use it to justify pretty much anything. There's an infamous clip of Rachel Maddow exposing Rand Paul's disagreement with the Civil Rights Act in the US because his ideology demanded that restaurant owners should be free to bar customers based on the colour of their skin. You might scoff at that, but that is the logic of libertarianism. 


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http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bus-unions-reaches-agreement-with-trade-unions-29270999.html

A deal is reached.  Terrible that it took striker action for the deal to be done. 
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Good that they reached a deal and didn't let the company walk all over them. SIPTU shown up again to be useless as Labour are in their pockets. Interesting that management took the same level of cuts as the ordinary workers though but I suppose they are the ones with the skills and expierence that eh lead to this mess.
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How do like them apples, William Martin Murphy ?
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EXECUTIVES AT BUS Éireann now face pay cuts and a longer working week under new proposals agreed upon at talks between management at the company and trade unions.

The intensive talks ended this morning and an agreement was reached on how the company can make savings of some €5 million.

SIPTU said today that several issues at the centre of the dispute which provoked a two-day strike have now been resolved including the restoration and protection of shift premiums for employees working unsocial hours.

Pay cuts for executives and directors

Union organiser Willie Noone said the overall financial burden on workers has been reduced and that senior management will now, for the first time, have to assist with the recovery of the company’s finances.

The Labour Relations Commisson agreement, seen by TheJournal.ie, includes a reduction in sick leave for executives from four days to three, a step back of one point no their pay scale and an increase in the number of hours in their working week from 36 to 39.

In line with all other groups, they will be required to contribute cash savings and non-graded executives not covered by collective agreements will also now be expected to contribute at double the rate.

The total additional cash contribution from this will amount to €330,000 or 6 per cent of the total cash savings. The agreement points out that additional non-cash contributions of €700,000 will be made by the productivity associated with additional hours and reductions in holiday entitlement.

Salaries for chief executives has already been reduced by 14 per cent in line with the Croke Park agreement in recent weeks but the agreement said they will now be cut further and directors will see a fall of 20 per cent in their pay.

Other changes in the agreement include:

  • A reduction in sick pay for all employees from four days to three;
  • Payments for working on rest days, including Sundays, will now be set at €1.25 an hour for the first two hours and €1.50 thereafter;
  • Slight reductions in annual leave for some positions;
  • A drop in pay scales for clerical staff and foremen;
  • An increase in working hours from 36 to 37 for clerical staff;
  • For inspectors, cooperation with the use of hand-held technology across all grades and use of technology associated with revenue protection and smart card technology.

Spare drivers will be particularly hit under the new proposals with the discontinuation of payments for non-working rest day overnights and the flat days pay for the first rest day away from the home depot. They will now be paid a rate of €33.43 before a reduction of 20 per cent in overnight payments.

Protection of jobs and the future of Bus Éireann

Noone said a crucial element of the agreement ensures that all terms of pay and conditions of employment that currently exist will be restored on 1 January 2015 if these proposals are accepted.

Earlier today Bus Éireann said that the range of cost-saving measures proposed will help to protect the jobs of its 2,500 employees and the future of the company.

Under the new agreement Bus Éireann said it will no longer be implementing the Labour Court Recommendation that it put in place €5 million in costs savings from terms and conditions deemed critical for the company’s viability. However it said the proposed measures will deliver “at least the same level of savings”.

If ratified, the agreement will start on 1 June this year and run until January 2015.

Welcoming the announcement today Minister for Transport Leo Varadkar said it was an “important breakthrough” and that he hoped it would be sufficient to resore the company to financial health.

“Since the proposal will now go to staff members for their consideration I will not be making any further comment, and give them space to consider it,” he said.

Bus Éireann said services will operate as normal today and going forward and thanked unions and the Labour Relations Commission for their contribution.

Plans to ballot members at the sister companies, Dublin Bus and Irish Rail, have now been deferred.

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Liberty was the winner here
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corkery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2013 at 5:22pm
The CEO's wages are to go from 189-184. I suppose that's an alright wage for a company that size. Still though, it might be seen as a bit unfair for workers to of taken the same wage cut as that.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote cm79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 May 2013 at 5:35pm
About time senior management took a hit Clap
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote corkery Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 2013 at 11:53am
Dublin Bus to go on strike.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DUBLIN DOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2015 at 1:24pm
Bump,
considering the situation today think this deserved a push
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