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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Warsaw 1944 - Hitler, Himmler and the crushing of a city.
Written by Alexandra Richie

About a third of the way through it. Harrowing stuff but a very interesting read.

Strangely the uprising has similarities with our own rising in that a poorly trained rag tag bunch, low on arms but high on morale went up against a professional army hardened by years of war - with neither rising ever having any hope of success. The major difference being the scale of death and destruction meted out to Warsaw and its residents.

Highly recommended if you're into second world war history.
 
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Warsaw 1944 - Alexandra Richie - very good so far ( references nothwithstanding)
 
It a great book but the lack of back up to the references was really annoying - they referenced some website - I tried it but couldn't get the references

I think it was your post on here which alerted me to it. Bought the book at the time but only got around to start reading it at the weekend Big smile


Since yesterday I've read the chapter about the Wola massacre. The book is becoming very difficult to read. No word of a lie I actually felt physically sick on the bus reading this latest section.

Oskar Dirlewanger was a truly evil man. 
"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Since yesterday I've read the chapter about the Wola massacre. The book is becoming very difficult to read. No word of a lie I actually felt physically sick on the bus reading this latest section.

Oskar Dirlewanger was a truly evil man. 
 
Yeah not many laughs, the Poles were truly fuked
 
Do you not find the lack of end notes really annoying never came across it before ? would usually flick bck and forth reading a book checking the references 
 
Headed to Chapters next Friday to stock up


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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

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Since yesterday I've read the chapter about the Wola massacre. The book is becoming very difficult to read. No word of a lie I actually felt physically sick on the bus reading this latest section.

Oskar Dirlewanger was a truly evil man. 
 
Yeah not many laughs, the Poles were truly fuked
 
Do you not find the lack of end notes really annoying never came across it before ? would usually flick bck and forth reading a book checking the references 
 
Headed to Chapters next Friday to stock up

Not really tbh. I was getting through this book at a rate of knots until today. The utter savagery and the detail in which it is described is now making reading very difficult. Having said that I still want to turn the page. 

What probably adds to the difficulty in reading it is that my own fiancé is Polish. I've listened to herself, her parents and grandmother in particular who survived the war tell me numerous stories of atrocities committed against the family. They lost many members to the different sides in the conflict and to this day it still affects them.

This book makes me really glad we have the European Union. It is without doubt the single greatest achievement we Europeans have managed. Despite the Brits, long may it last.


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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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@newryrep the reference website appears to be working now. You have to download a ~60 page document which contains all the references. I read on an Amazon review that said the authors father in law survived the uprising and went on to become Poland's foreign minister when democracy was restored in 89. A lot of the material for the book come from his archives.
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

@newryrep the reference website appears to be working now. You have to download a ~60 page document which contains all the references. I read on an Amazon review that said the authors father in law survived the uprising and went on to become Poland's foreign minister when democracy was restored in 89. A lot of the material for the book come from his archives.
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Derf Backderf- My Friend Dahmer
 
I've never really got into graphic novels, they are usually not about things I have an interest in, but the subject here, growing up as a school friend of arguably America's most notorious serial killer, is fascinating. I enjoy his artwork too.
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Derf Backderf- My Friend Dahmer
 
I've never really got into graphic novels, they are usually not about things I have an interest in, but the subject here, growing up as a school friend of arguably America's most notorious serial killer, is fascinating. I enjoy his artwork too.


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Dracula-Bram Stoker 

Absolute classic and favorite of mine I try to read it every October
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Derf Backderf- My Friend Dahmer
 
I've never really got into graphic novels, they are usually not about things I have an interest in, but the subject here, growing up as a school friend of arguably America's most notorious serial killer, is fascinating. I enjoy his artwork too.


Yeah, I'm sure you do
It is comic book drawing, not the ceiling on the Sistine Chapel. You will either like it or you won't.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:


Derf Backderf- My Friend Dahmer
 
I've never really got into graphic novels, they are usually not about things I have an interest in, but the subject here, growing up as a school friend of arguably America's most notorious serial killer, is fascinating. I enjoy his artwork too.


Yeah, I'm sure you do

It is comic book drawing, not the ceiling on the Sistine Chapel. You will either like it or you won't.


It's not the artwork I'm laughing at - think about it.
It was far across the sea,
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I haven't got a notion, sorry. I'm not overly bothered either.
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vonnegut - slaughterhouse 5
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the assassination of Reinhard heydrich -Callum Mac Donald 
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Starting Angels with Dirty Faces, it's been recommended on here a few times so interested to see what it's like.
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Starting Angels with Dirty Faces, it's been recommended on here a few times so interested to see what it's like.

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Starting Angels with Dirty Faces, it's been recommended on here a few times so interested to see what it's like.

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Brilliant book


yea, top read. jonathan wilson really did his homework on it. enjoy!
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Starting Angels with Dirty Faces, it's been recommended on here a few times so interested to see what it's like.

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Brilliant book


yea, top read. jonathan wilson really did his homework on it. enjoy!


I think he's a fantastic writer, I've read both Angels and Inverting the pyramid (Behind the curtain is awaiting me ) both fantastic, his new one about Barcelona is another my list
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Originally posted by alihau41 alihau41 wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by The Huntacha The Huntacha wrote:

Starting Angels with Dirty Faces, it's been recommended on here a few times so interested to see what it's like.

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Brilliant book


yea, top read. jonathan wilson really did his homework on it. enjoy!


I think he's a fantastic writer, I've read both Angels and Inverting the pyramid (Behind the curtain is awaiting me ) both fantastic, his new one about Barcelona is another my list
 
Angels with Dirty Faces one of the best footballing books ive read in a long time 
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