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i think if an election actually occured you might see a hell of a lot more catholics voting for it than 13% ..
 
would the south vote for it thoughLOL
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

It will never happen - at least not in our lifetime. 
There are far too many bridges to build.

Also the fact that we are 80 billion in dept makes joining the Republic less attractive.




More bridges to get over than build in my opinion.

The north is sh*t and the south is sh*t at the minute, we could join up and get our sh*t together as a nation once again. With Scotland on the verge of leaving the uk I do think things will get interesting up north. With the breakup of the uk do the English public want to really bankroll the north like they have for years? I doubt it.

Will I see a one island state in my lifetime? I do think and hope so.
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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

i think if an election actually occured you might see a hell of a lot more catholics voting for it than 13% ..
 
would the south vote for it thoughLOL


That was 13% of everybody, nto just Catholics! Wont ever happen
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Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

It will never happen - at least not in our lifetime. 
There are far too many bridges to build.

Also the fact that we are 80 billion in dept makes joining the Republic less attractive.




More bridges to get over than build in my opinion.

The north is sh*t and the south is sh*t at the minute, we could join up and get our sh*t together as a nation once again. With Scotland on the verge of leaving the uk I do think things will get interesting up north. With the breakup of the uk do the English public want to really bankroll the north like they have for years? I doubt it.

Will I see a one island state in my lifetime? I do think and hope so.

If and when Scotland leave the UK will be a major factor in the future of this country. If it works well then a lot of people on the fence or even a lot of Unionists might think it could be for the best.

You would also need to promote it as bring Irish British to the Unionist community and respect their traditions and heritage.

There are hundreds of reasons why this will not happen any time soon.

In a hypothetical situation that Ulster leaves the Union - the Loyalists would just rage war on the south. If that threat was there then it just wouldn't happen.
Just look at the mayhem on the streets of Belfast because they took a flag down.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

It will never happen - at least not in our lifetime. 
There are far too many bridges to build.

Also the fact that we are 80 billion in dept makes joining the Republic less attractive.




More bridges to get over than build in my opinion.

The north is sh*t and the south is sh*t at the minute, we could join up and get our sh*t together as a nation once again. With Scotland on the verge of leaving the uk I do think things will get interesting up north. With the breakup of the uk do the English public want to really bankroll the north like they have for years? I doubt it.

Will I see a one island state in my lifetime? I do think and hope so.

If and when Scotland leave the UK will be a major factor in the future of this country. If it works well then a lot of people on the fence or even a lot of Unionists might think it could be for the best.

You would also need to promote it as bring Irish British to the Unionist community and respect their traditions and heritage.

There are hundreds of reasons why this will not happen any time soon.

In a hypothetical situation that Ulster  Northern Ireland leaves the Union - the Loyalists would just rage war on the south. If that threat was there then it just wouldn't happen.
Just look at the mayhem on the streets of Belfast because they took a flag down.




Fixed that for ya but agree with yer points. Its all a bit fooked up what ever happens.
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Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

It will never happen - at least not in our lifetime. 
There are far too many bridges to build.

Also the fact that we are 80 billion in dept makes joining the Republic less attractive.




More bridges to get over than build in my opinion.

The north is sh*t and the south is sh*t at the minute, we could join up and get our sh*t together as a nation once again. With Scotland on the verge of leaving the uk I do think things will get interesting up north. With the breakup of the uk do the English public want to really bankroll the north like they have for years? I doubt it.

Will I see a one island state in my lifetime? I do think and hope so.

If and when Scotland leave the UK will be a major factor in the future of this country. If it works well then a lot of people on the fence or even a lot of Unionists might think it could be for the best.

You would also need to promote it as bring Irish British to the Unionist community and respect their traditions and heritage.

There are hundreds of reasons why this will not happen any time soon.

In a hypothetical situation that Ulster  Northern Ireland leaves the Union - the Loyalists would just rage war on the south. If that threat was there then it just wouldn't happen.
Just look at the mayhem on the streets of Belfast because they took a flag down.




Fixed that for ya but agree with yer points. Its all a bit fooked up what ever happens.
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Originally posted by Jerryfromkerry Jerryfromkerry wrote:

well there will certainly be a catholic majority in 15 to 20 years. Whether this translates to a nationalist majority remains to be seen.


13% want to rejoin Ireland at last count and less than half of Catholic's, wont happen


Have you a link to this poll?

The polls i have seen are carried out by unionist media which are not credible given that their figures for party support are way off when election results come out.

The correlation between the catholic population and nationalist vote is very close.

How many people would have voted for the lisburn referendum if they did not know any of the detail. People who are asked whether they want a UI do not know a thing about what this means.
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Lisbon not lisburn
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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

i think if an election actually occured you might see a hell of a lot more catholics voting for it than 13% ..
 
would the south vote for it thoughLOL

I would never vote for it. It would bring too much trouble, I am happy to leave them up there fighting over a flag and heading across to Newry for some cheap gear now and againWink

Also I think another piece of land that spends more money than it can recoup in taxes is the last thing the republic  needs. 
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Took us many years to get rid of the churches grip on politics in the republic, imagine having those bible bashers up there having an input on our lives. No thanks.
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13% is not true because Sinn Fein and the SDLP have alot more that 13% or 26% of the vote up there.
 
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A lot of SDLP voters wouldnt vote for a united ireland
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It's worth bearing in mind that the Scottish referendum is merely a question - do Scots want to go alone. The actual breakup of the Union would be a long and drawn out process which would span a generation, if the English actually let it happen - there's nothing that says they have to actually listen to the results of the referendum.

 

The Irish situation is, in my opinion, very different and any suggested break away from the UK would lead to all out conflict as pointed out above. That said, I have always believed and I will always believe that unity is better than partition. Be it inside the UK or out, Ireland was one country and in the future i believe it will be one country again. Our Island is far too small to be divided.

 

People often say the biggest hurdle is convincing our Unionist country men and women to believe in a United Ireland. I believe a bigger challenge is reinvigorating the South to recognise and fight for a United Ireland, peacefully. I'm sick to death of reading comments from stupid mong inbred Southerners on here saying they don't want the North etc etc... Anyone who believes that needs to pick up a history book and learn about the sacrifices made by generations before us. I wasn’t born in Ireland, but I made it my duty to learn about the history of my country. I believe everyone should.

 

Our Unionist country men and women will only begin to trust us, once we can truly convince ourselves that any future united country would have to be a country of absolute equals, recognising our shared culture, whether it be orange or green. In this country, the 12th should be celebrated with equal cultural importance to St. Guinness Day.  In my opinion, this will happen, but it will take generations and I’m not sure if our generation have the stomach for it.

 

Fundamentally, London and the people of the UK despise everything Belfast and all the troubles bring. If only our banana republic government in the South had the balls to fight.

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Stupid mong inbred southerners? We owe billions, we can't afford them, taking them on would be stupid.
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Originally posted by londonirish londonirish wrote:

It's worth bearing in mind that the Scottish referendum is merely a question - do Scots want to go alone. The actual breakup of the Union would be a long and drawn out process which would span a generation, if the English actually let it happen - there's nothing that says they have to actually listen to the results of the referendum.

 

The Irish situation is, in my opinion, very different and any suggested break away from the UK would lead to all out conflict as pointed out above. That said, I have always believed and I will always believe that unity is better than partition. Be it inside the UK or out, Ireland was one country and in the future i believe it will be one country again. Our Island is far too small to be divided.

 

People often say the biggest hurdle is convincing our Unionist country men and women to believe in a United Ireland. I believe a bigger challenge is reinvigorating the South to recognise and fight for a United Ireland, peacefully. I'm sick to death of reading comments from stupid mong inbred Southerners on here saying they don't want the North etc etc... Anyone who believes that needs to pick up a history book and learn about the sacrifices made by generations before us. I wasn’t born in Ireland, but I made it my duty to learn about the history of my country. I believe everyone should.

 

Our Unionist country men and women will only begin to trust us, once we can truly convince ourselves that any future united country would have to be a country of absolute equals, recognising our shared culture, whether it be orange or green. In this country, the 12th should be celebrated with equal cultural importance to St. Guinness Day.  In my opinion, this will happen, but it will take generations and I’m not sure if our generation have the stomach for it.

 

Fundamentally, London and the people of the UK despise everything Belfast and all the troubles bring. If only our banana republic government in the South had the balls to fight.


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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100095628/northern-ireland-catholics-are-now-more-unionist-than-the-english-can-the-united-kingdom-last/

thats from same survey but doesnt have the 13% figure, have posted it up before though

interesting stat in there - the union is more popular with norn iron catholics than english people
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