The Hibernian F.C. Thread

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Kenny Shiels would be an awful appointment! I agree with the rest.  Lenny passed the buck upstairs a lot and tried to play to the gallery and while I concede he had bad luck with injuries this season, management is all about results. He made a rod for his own back on a few occasions too, particularly when he said he should have finished second last year and felt he underachieved. That was ill-thought out to say in public, even if he may have had a point. I think his public flogging of Kamberi was when the wheels really started coming off.

MC Hammered wrote: The wheels came off for Kenny Shields at Derry City quite suddenly after he had done some very good work. They overachieved for a couple of years but with the loss of key playing personnel (one in tragic circumstances) it was bound to catch up with them. However, they went on a long losing/ winless streak and he looked a beaten docket at the end. He is defo an interesting character anyway.  Would Hibs have the funds to tempt someone like Steve Clarke from Killie?

pre Madonna wrote: Was that his League Cup win? If so, definitely not. There are enough lunatics in Leith, they don't need another.

Edited by ErsatzThistle - 31 Jan 2019 at 3:13pm

FW - I've been following the Lenny story a fair bit on the BBC Scotland Sportsound podcast and from what I can gather (although there could another non football story) it seems Lenny felt that Hibs should be a serious challenger to Celtic this season and he hasn't been supported by the board and has made this feelings on this quite publically. Lenny's annoyance can be traced back to the John McGinn and Dylan McGeough transfers at the end of last season, McGinn was set to go to Celtic in return for Ryan Christie and a fee (which for Lenny was the best deal), but instead the Hibs board went for Villa's offer instead. He was pissed off over that and didn't get the transfer kitty he wanted despite Hibs having record Season ticket sales for this season. In the meantime, Hibs form has fell off a cliff and are way behind the Huns, Dons and Killie as the main challanger. There is a suggestion that the board were looking for a reason to sack him without having to pay compensation but have bottled it when Lenny got his solicitors involved. Hibs captain David Gray more or less killed off an disciplinary case by saying the dressing room row was nothing out of the standard dressing room fare. I doubt the reason Lenny left was the same reason why Stubbs left..

Edited by Cabra Hoop - 31 Jan 2019 at 3:40pm

ErsatzThistle wrote: A 9% increase followed by a further 20% is big for a club of Kilmarnock's stature. Not my words but my cousin. The latter is a thirty year plus season ticket holder and his family are shareholders at Kilmarnock. He tells me that that many half season tickets were bought over Christmas and Easter. So I think I will be taking his word (someone that actually goes to the games and takes the club's off field affairs seriously) for it over yours. But if you want to just float around making petty points then carry on.

I wasn't making any "petty" points (I assume you mean pooh-poohing SC?), merely pointing out some facts.

Edited by Territorial - 31 Jan 2019 at 4:43pm

ErsatzThistle wrote: Territorial wrote: I wasn't making any "petty" points (I assume you mean pooh-poohing SC?), merely pointing out some facts. Which is that whilst Clark's progress has clearly been hugely impressive all round, as I freely acknowledged, re attendances, these should be seen in the context that the increases we've witnessed on his watch have followed on from an historical low: i.e. under 4k the season before he took over, as against nearly 12k seventeen years previously, with an average of nearly 7k in between. But if you will only accept the most positive possible spin on such matters*, then I'd happily agree that so long as he stays at the club and maintains his success, then there must surely be potential for him to attract even bigger crowds in seasons to come. There. Happy now? * - On your cousin's behalf, at least. I think with all due respect that I'll definitely be taking a season ticket holder of thirty years who you know, actually goes to the games and knows what the hell he's talking about better than some know it all who wants to argue about tiny, sad points . End of.

God, you don't know how much you've hurt me.