Kevin Long

Good to see him get a game, most patient man in football.

greenmachine68 wrote: Good to see him get a game, most patient man in football.

Kevin playing again tonight

Plays well again.Clean sheet and a win. Upto 4th.

Stickittotheman wrote: longford claret wrote: Plays well again.Clean sheet and a win. Upto 4th. Mad that MON has so little faith in our players. There is Burnley with Ward, Hendrick, Brady and now Kevin Long all in the first 11 showing they are very decent players when set up right. When you have guys like Coleman, McCarthy, Duffy supplementing that MON shouldnt be downplaying our guys every chance he gets. In regards to Long great to see him getting some game time lets hope it continues.

What better way to congratulate the lad on his performance than take a pop at the manager that has given him all his international caps...

DeclanDaly wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: longford claret wrote: Plays well again.Clean sheet and a win. Upto 4th. Mad that MON has so little faith in our players. There is Burnley with Ward, Hendrick, Brady and now Kevin Long all in the first 11 showing they are very decent players when set up right. When you have guys like Coleman, McCarthy, Duffy supplementing that MON shouldnt be downplaying our guys every chance he gets. In regards to Long great to see him getting some game time lets hope it continues. It’s true. The logic doesn’t add up. The common perception is that premier league football is superior to international football. So how can our players be good enough for the premiere league but not good enough for international football?

Conan wrote: DeclanDaly wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: longford claret wrote: Plays well again.Clean sheet and a win. Upto 4th. Mad that MON has so little faith in our players. There is Burnley with Ward, Hendrick, Brady and now Kevin Long all in the first 11 showing they are very decent players when set up right. When you have guys like Coleman, McCarthy, Duffy supplementing that MON shouldnt be downplaying our guys every chance he gets. In regards to Long great to see him getting some game time lets hope it continues. It’s true. The logic doesn’t add up. The common perception is that premier league football is superior to international football. So how can our players be good enough for the premiere league but not good enough for international football? Where would the Ireland team be in the table if they were a premier league side though? Count up the number of goals scored by our players in the last couple of years in the prem and tell me that adds up to anything other than relegation?

I don’t know where we would be in the table, but I know that Seamus Coleman would be far and away Burnleys best player, while the likes of Duffy, and a fit James McCarthy would be vying for starting places.

To be able to qualify for world cups though you need to have players who can create and score goals against quality teams. Republic of Ireland players have scored 7 goals this season and created 5 in the permier league . That doesn't put you fourth in the league it puts you last. 

DeclanDaly wrote: Maccatacca wrote: Conan wrote: DeclanDaly wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: longford claret wrote: Plays well again.Clean sheet and a win. Upto 4th. Mad that MON has so little faith in our players. There is Burnley with Ward, Hendrick, Brady and now Kevin Long all in the first 11 showing they are very decent players when set up right. When you have guys like Coleman, McCarthy, Duffy supplementing that MON shouldnt be downplaying our guys every chance he gets. In regards to Long great to see him getting some game time lets hope it continues. It’s true. The logic doesn’t add up. The common perception is that premier league football is superior to international football. So how can our players be good enough for the premiere league but not good enough for international football? Where would the Ireland team be in the table if they were a premier league side though? Count up the number of goals scored by our players in the last couple of years in the prem and tell me that adds up to anything other than relegation? I don’t know where we would be in the table, but I know that Seamus Coleman would be far and away Burnleys best player, while the likes of Duffy, and a fit James McCarthy would be vying for starting places. Exactly - that’s the point. Our players are evidently good enough to be 4th in the table. Why shouldn’t we compete at international level if our players are used to competing with some of the worlds best players on a weekly basis. The answer I think is organization. Premier league teams play with each other every week. Teams like Iceland have brought that institutionalized system to international football and have succeeded because of it

No. A couple of our players are good enough to be playing in an overachieving side, just because they are doing so does not mean we must be doing better. It is a constant argument on here and one that is completely illogical, yet people run with it anyway. Judging players on the league position of their clubs appears to be very much an Irish thing, I just assume it is a form of clutching at straws?
We would also be a much better side if we had a few of the non-Irish Burnley players available to us. With no disrespect to Sam Vokes, it kind of shows where we are when we are desperate for a striker like him.