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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Newryrep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by SteviesGranny SteviesGranny wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:


Originally posted by SteviesGranny SteviesGranny wrote:

For the Trap "lovers" out there I have a few questions that I would like you to answer

1: Do you think he picks the strongest squad available to him? IMO NO IHO - Yes or do you think he is delibertly picking a poor squad

2: From that squad do you think he picks the strongest team? - IMO NO IHO - Yes or do youthink he is delibertly picking a poor side

3: Do you think he plays the best formation for the players at his disposal? IMO NO IHO - Yes

4: Do you believe his tactics get the most out of the team? IMO No IHO Yes

OK Ill bite - see above and answer these
 
Where will the money come to pay off Trap (at most likely his orignal salary not his reduced one) for the remaining years in his contract ? and for a replacement who lets face it is going to be looking at ahefty enough salary given what his predecessor was on
 
serious answers only no head in the sand guff that usually gets posted
 
Does
Play off defeat
Qualification
P1W1
 
justify sacking a manager from a side that hadnt qualified in 10 years ?


Sorry if I am been a bit slow but is IMO me as in SteviesGranny and is IHO Trap? If so how about Newryreps opinion? Which is what I am looking for here i.e. the opinion of people who support Trap.

And I wasn't looking for a bite, just some questions I wanted to ask to the Trap faithful.
 
FFS SG LOL IMO - in my (as in Newryrep's) opinion
 
IHO - in his (as in traps) opinion
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Newryrep Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

 
Does
Play off defeat
Qualification
P1W1
 
justify sacking a manager from a side that hadnt qualified in 10 years ?
 
 
a bit selective there newry , i am trying to repress the polish memories myself but no need to leave it out altogther LOL
 
 
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Played 3 lost 3 -8 goals
 
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2004 - DNQ
 
2006 DNQ
 
2008 - DNQ
 
Trap years
 
2010 - DNQ (playoff defeat)
 
2012 - Qualified via play off - 3 defeats  and poor performances against superior teams  in tournament
 
2014 - P1 W 1 - awful performance 
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Originally posted by SteviesGranny SteviesGranny wrote:


I understand your points but I am finding it hard to distinguish here between people who want Trap in the job because they think he is the best person and those who are resigned to having him because the FAI handed him a contract before the Euro's.

 
Think he has earned the right to at least the Faores
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote horsebox Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 10:05pm
Thoughts after tonight's performance?
It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me,
He wouldn't set me free,
So he kept me soul for ransom.
na na na na na na na na na
na na na na na na na na.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Thoughts after tonight's performance?



Better tonight hope he has learned team vs Germany
Westwood.
Kelly....O Shea....Dunne.....Wilson...
.Coleman.......Meyler....Whelan....McCarthy..McGeady.
.................Long..............

Would be devastated if O Shea and Ward are fullbacks now.
If Andrews came in for Meyler wouldn't be end of world either.
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Meyler and Wilson definitely have not done enough.
It was far across the sea,
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So he kept me soul for ransom.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rainpaulo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 10:41pm
Wilson has to start if Trap is half arsed...really hate knocking Ward but he is sh*te.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BaileNuisBhoy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 10:45pm
Originally posted by rainpaulo rainpaulo wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Thoughts after tonight's performance?



Better tonight hope he has learned team vs Germany
Westwood.
Kelly....O Shea....Dunne.....Wilson...
.Coleman.......Meyler....Whelan....McCarthy..McGeady.
.................Long..............

Would be devastated if O Shea and Ward are fullbacks now.
If Andrews came in for Meyler wouldn't be end of world either.
Cant understand why Wilson was taken off at half time. St.Ledger will definitely start.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mick_G Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2012 at 8:10am
Funny the way a lot of the pro trap people are saying well what do ya think now on various threads. Surely this proves that traps ideas that we can't play without hoofing the ball and hoping. We all know that trap will go back to his starting 11 v Germany.

Some may say ah it was only Oman have we forgotten who outplayed us on Friday

I would love to see a team like

                  Westwood

Kelly.        Dunne.        O'Shea       Wilson
                        
                        Meyler

Coleman.    Whelan   McCarthy       McGeedy

                         Long


Harsh on Doyle and sledge but at the moment personally I think that's our best team. We have a lot more options then people make out and it's about time we started using them

Remember that 11 that played v Oman have never played together and I'm convinced the team v Oman would beat the team v kaz
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mick_G Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2012 at 8:12am
Ha sorry just realised I posted the exact same team as someone above
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Originally posted by Mick_G Mick_G wrote:

Funny the way a lot of the pro trap people are saying well what do ya think now on various threads. Surely this proves that traps ideas that we can't play without hoofing the ball and hoping. We all know that trap will go back to his starting 11 v Germany.

Some may say ah it was only Oman have we forgotten who outplayed us on Friday

I would love to see a team like

                  Westwood

Kelly.        Dunne.        O'Shea       Wilson
                        
                        Meyler

Coleman.    Whelan   McCarthy       McGeedy

                         Long


Harsh on Doyle and sledge but at the moment personally I think that's our best team. We have a lot more options then people make out and it's about time we started using them

Remember that 11 that played v Oman have never played together and I'm convinced the team v Oman would beat the team v kaz
Exactly...unfortunately i missed the game bcoz not one pub in the town had setanta! Angry...anyway by the sounds of things it was a good exercise,i just hope that Trap has realised that he cant do without Long and he can trust these lads to come in and do a job!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Baldrick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Sep 2012 at 10:17am
Just to say about whether players have done enough. I think a manager is entitled to make a call on a player like he did with st ledger and Lawrence and cox and put them in the team if he feels they are good enough and fit in.

It's not based on time served.
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