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TheMightyQuinn
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 452 |
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trap isn't doing anything now that a school boy coach couldn't.
we needed him when he arrived, he restored order and dignity to our team... but we are in danger of losing the progress he had made by having him overstay his welcome. honestly... is trap doing something pat fenlon couldn't do (for a quarter of the price?) we don't need a name... we need someone who gives a sh*t, isn't to arrogant to assume we can't evolve, and is willing to take some calculated chances. look at the top LOI coaches, look at younger league 1, or championship managers... who was brendan rogers before swansea took him? a reserve coach at chelsea, and managed 2 npower teams. for those pro trap posters who lament that bringing in a winger who has one season in the top flight won't turn us into a world class team need to catch themselves on. there is a huge difference between the piss we watched last night and what would be an accepted irish performance. playing in form epl players in their natural position over championship players out of position would be a start... not to mention our ragtag defense. trap won't lead us to brazil, the only place he's leading me is into rehab... |
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baresi41
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1102 |
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Lads, look into Continental Europe. There's plenty of German, French, Croatian & Dutch coaches who'd give their right arm for a decent international job. As my friend frewheeler said, we don't need Venebles or Mc Carthy. O'Leary isn't good enough. Think outside the box here. Trap as already stated was off the radar, and got the job, and restored our pride, but he's losing it now. Denis O'Brien won't makeup any shortfall, so we're looking at €1 million tops for a manager. sl*gging each others opinions won't solve the issue. If people are that fed up, then use your feet to vote and don't go to games.. I said in another tread, Trap has the same mentality as Clough, Ferguson and Revie - (arogant). their way or no way. Fans don't influence their opinion, but fans boycotting or geering do influence the powers that employ him. They'd be the only ones who could make the change, so bear that in mind. I'm not for rebel rising, but look throughout Europe where the fans boycotted/protested at managers they disliked, and clubs/countries ended their contracts.
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FRANCO BARESI: Always supporting the green brigade
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jackshat
Ray Houghton Jack shat in case you're wondering Joined: 18 Jul 2011 Location: Monaghan Status: Offline Points: 3979 |
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To be fair I don't think any of us hate Trap, I know I don't.
I am just frustrated that he won't try out new tactics and give some of the younger lads a good run out in the first eleven. We could potentially have a very exciting creative young team with enough experienced heads to keep the whole thing ticking over but instead we have too many weak links in the first team. Ward, O'Shea and Keane should not be starting imo. Keane is at the stage of his career where he should be used as an impact sub. O'Shea should be moved into the middle as he is much better than Sledge in that position. I would even rather we played McShane at RB and moved O'Shea in the middle. There is no doubting Trap's ability as a manager, I have no doubts that he will be the most decorated Ireland manager in my lifetime anyway and I'm only a youn'un! It just seems that football has evolved and his style of play is becoming outdated. I mean the alarm bells were ringing last night when Kazakhstan were completely outplaying us for large parts of the game. It took us over 70 minutes to register our first shot on target for gods sake.
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packiesglove
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Location: piccadilly Status: Offline Points: 5650 |
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nice to know one of only 3 managers in our footballing history to have actually taken us to a finals is so highly regarded and appreciated by you Denis, perhaps you have a reason for dismissing Mick ? level with Paul Jewell, sure he's managed teams at world cup finals hasnt he ?
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fochie
Liam Brady Joined: 11 May 2012 Status: Offline Points: 2139 |
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Im guessing you've the brains of a 6 year old, and as you joined after Estonia this has made my calculated guess a very good one. My head is far from up Traps hole, but most people, people like you, who didnt realise we had a soccer team until we qualified for the euros, and then you suddenly decided you were a die hard, you can go and f**k right off, I hope i never ever have the pleasure of crossing paths Does trap have us in a better position than we were 5 years ago, obviously, so until he sends us backwards. Trap ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ridiculous Comment that IM Edited by fochie - 08 Sep 2012 at 4:16pm |
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ScotsIrish
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 18 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 264 |
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Always people on here giving out about our home attendances, well what we saw last night and we have had to endure a lot of nights where we have been played off the park by sh*t teams is a big reason why people won't go to games. Last night was shocking, traps tactics were unbelievable. I have defended him before but no more. Something has to change.
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Bray Wanderer
Ronnie Whelan Joined: 24 Dec 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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The performance was clearly poor but I think by the end of the group, this will be seen as a good result. Trap is frustrating, stubborn, overly loyal and has poor communication skills. For all that he is over delivering in terms of results given the players at his disposal.
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FiremanDan
Liam Brady Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2408 |
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Not sure I agree with that. What result from the past 4 years was an over-achievement, aside from maybe Russia away? |
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Sean Og O Hailpin.... his father's from Fermanagh, his mother's from Fiji, neither a hurling stronghold."
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Jackthelad
Jack Charlton It's OUR year Joined: 13 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9270 |
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That's the stupidest post of 2012 right there. What kind of an idiot only joins ybig after the Estonia match you say. Scandalous isn't it. Get f**kin real chap, would you rather 1,000 diehards who have supported us since 1987 inside in the Aviva by themselves? What a warped state of mind. |
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Denis Irwin
Robbie Keane Stay Home & watch Lethal Weapon Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Ath Cliath Status: Offline Points: 37951 |
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at the 3rd attempt with what was probably a much better squad as a whole in comparison to the current squad. We fcuked away leads a few occasions under McCarthy. Primary example being the away match to Macedonia which cost us automatic qualifications for Euro 2000. Another late goal conceded away Croatia was another example in the same campaign IIRC.
BTW what has McCarthy acheived since he left the job 10 years ago. Fact is given his record over the last 10 years if he wasn't Irish you wouldn't have anyone calling for him to be given the job.
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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farfar
Liam Brady Joined: 13 Feb 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1704 |
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Thank f**k someone mentioned this don't know why it took so long for someone to mention it. People do realise that football management does exist outside of England don't they?
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FiremanDan
Liam Brady Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2408 |
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Couldn't agree more. It doesn't necessarily have to be a familiar face but looking at any of the betting on the next manager, it's all the usual suspects. |
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Sean Og O Hailpin.... his father's from Fermanagh, his mother's from Fiji, neither a hurling stronghold."
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trainee
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 21 Nov 2011 Status: Offline Points: 433 |
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Lads if Trap goes in the Morning, just remember FAI are broke so the next manger wont be a high profile one.
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Smartalex
500 Club la la la Joined: 20 Apr 2011 Status: Offline Points: 499 |
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great shout if only it was possible there are plenty of good coaches out there who are living in the 21st century unlike our present one |
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FiremanDan
Liam Brady Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2408 |
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I don't know what the financial status of the FAI is but if they are struggling not only can they not afford to pay Trapp off, they won't be able to afford a proven manager to replace him like you say. I can also only see the financial situation getting worse. The Aviva may be full for the Germany game but if we start to struggle in the group like many of us fear we will, they won't be filling the stadium for any of the other home games. |
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Sean Og O Hailpin.... his father's from Fermanagh, his mother's from Fiji, neither a hurling stronghold."
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Denis Irwin
Robbie Keane Stay Home & watch Lethal Weapon Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Ath Cliath Status: Offline Points: 37951 |
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Fixed Edited by Denis Irwin - 08 Sep 2012 at 11:25pm |
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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Stoked Up
Jack Charlton Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Location: España Status: Offline Points: 6674 |
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There's no doubting we mugged them, but Kazakstan have recent draws with both Austria and Latvia and wins over Kyrgyzstan and Azerbaijan over the past year or so. |
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FiremanDan
Liam Brady Joined: 18 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2408 |
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Sadliers comments spring to mind here, exactly how low are we setting the bar for ourselves? Austria, may be an improving team, but the other three??? Average to poor teams at best. |
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Sean Og O Hailpin.... his father's from Fermanagh, his mother's from Fiji, neither a hurling stronghold."
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