Waterford may go. |
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Author | ||||
gazelle.
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 30 Jul 2012 Status: Offline Points: 410 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
Who said anything about giving bottom half clubs a euro spot? The bottom half of an 18 team league is 9th and lower. The play offs would be 3rd through to 6th. Play offs aren't neccessarily fair, but they are interesting and they draw crowds. Just look at the english football league.
|
||||
Sponsored Links | ||||
roverstillidie
Jack Charlton Bohs number 1 fan Joined: 25 Jun 2011 Status: Offline Points: 8529 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
I'm saying a single division with no relegation is not the solution. Yes there are major issues with the 1st, but importing them into the PD won't solve them.
In other words get Rovers, Pats, Cork and Sligo to subsidise them? Hmmmm. These clubs are in the 1st division for a reason. What have they done to deserve a place at the top table?
Or keep relegation, fix the first division and stop tinkering.... What will happen is the likes of Mervue (no offence) will be happy to get whapped 7/8 nil half the time, finish bottom, stay in the league and use the money to do up their clubhouse. Its what happened last time there was no relegation.
Long and short of it this 'fix' will suit the small provincial clubs to the direct detriment of the established, bigger clubs. Why should Rovers lose games v Bohs, Pats and Sligo to play Mervue, Wexford and Salthill? You will have to do a lot harder than 'because they are rubbish and need a hand'. With respect, Waterford failing to get promoted 7 years on the spin is not Rovers problem and nor should it become it.
Having a league with dead rubber games, hidings being dished out from the full timers to the amateurs every week suits no-one except the amateur sides who get bigger away gates. These clubs aren't important enough to structure the league round. It's harsh, but its life.
There is an argument to be made for stabalising the league, but to me this idea has too many negatives.
|
||||
saintjoey
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1746 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
sorry read that wrong, ya would still have 8 clubs with nothing to play for every season there crowds would slip to nothing imo and i include the big clubs in that if we managed to have such a bad season dropping to 14th in the league by september id say even the derby games would only have 1,000 at it. id love an 18/20 team premier league with 3 teams going down, keeping the whole league competitive with your play off idea but its never going to happen here.
|
||||
Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10781 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
I see A. Ineista is sponsoring his home town club Albacete who are in financial trouble....... the gauntlet is handed over to Messrs. O'Shea and Hunt to spare a few crumbs from the rich mans table.....
|
||||
" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
|
||||
GoneToShowgies
Ray Houghton Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Status: Offline Points: 3973 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
One things for sure. JD wont be happy that his home town club and the team he supports is standing up to the FAI. Interesting to see how that side of things pans out.
tbh Im not sure a 16 or 18 team league is a good idea. Not that I wouldnt want one, far from it, but if they are going to change it, it needs to be from the top down and not for almost the sake of it and to just kick the can down the road and change it back in a few years. Clubs and fans cant agree and are confused becuase there simply hasnt been a definitive plan laid out by the FAI.
Call me cynical but if Waterford were in a guarenteed promotion spot this season I have me doubts they would be going down this road. Make no bones about it, every club is out for themselves and the FAI is out for itself.
A few things on a expanded league:
- Seeing clubs geting hammered in a 1 team league will ruin it and make it a jokeshop (we hammered Galway 8-nil in Terryland last season. Dont get me wrong I cheered every goal and its great to get one over on them Crusties. But at the same time it didnt feel right)
- No relegation for a few season just cant happen imo. Half a dozen teams will cut their budget to zip cause they have nothing to play for. Which will mean even bigger hammerings from full time teams.
- This argument of 'we will get bigger gates' against the big teams. FFS it wil be a few gates per season, not exactly the gravy train people think or hope imo.
|
||||
Jerryfromkerry
Liam Brady Joined: 08 Nov 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2071 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
An All Ireland league is the solution
|
||||
No man has the right to fix the boundary to the march of a nation. No man has the right to say to his country “thus far shalt thou go and no further"
|
||||
domo32GUST
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 426 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
|
||||
www.maroonarmy.boards.net 'One City, One County, One Club'
|
||||
gazelle.
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 30 Jul 2012 Status: Offline Points: 410 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
Good luck to ye. Would love to see Galway Utd back in the league. Hopefully Mervue and salthill will drop out too. Edited by gazelle. - 27 Aug 2012 at 11:25pm |
||||
Sham157
Moderator Group Joined: 17 Jul 2009 Location: Monaghan/Dublin Status: Offline Points: 33194 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
|
||||
planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
Mervue and Salthill are where they are by right. Waterford are also where they are by right. If you want to be in the top division, you have to show that you can meet the standard on the pitch. For the past 5 years, Waterford haven't met that standard, and until they do when the regular season is completed, they're not entitled to play with the big teams. I totally reject out of hand the idea of league playoffs for anything. It's supposed to be a league. If after 8 months, you've achieved your targets, congratulations. If you haven't, you can try again next year. If you go bust, you go bust. There were many before you, and there will be many more after you. Football is a dog-eat-dog sport. It's not GAA you're playing. |
||||
Clonbhoy
Roy Keane AKA Sir Basil Butterpeas Esquire Joined: 12 Aug 2010 Location: Iarthar Chorcaí Status: Offline Points: 13976 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
|
||||
Dukla
Liam Brady Joined: 07 Jun 2012 Location: Shaolin Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
IFA would never be in favor of it. |
||||
|
||||
domo32GUST
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 11 Apr 2012 Location: Galway Status: Offline Points: 426 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
|
||||
www.maroonarmy.boards.net 'One City, One County, One Club'
|
||||
Wheelo
Liam Brady Joined: 09 Sep 2010 Location: Drogheda Status: Online Points: 2307 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
Never mind the IFA, but the majority of supporters up there don’t want it (and wouldn’t support it either) |
||||
"Not surprised you are anti foreigner in your so called Kip of a town when you don’t want a manager because he is Swedish and you want big Sam in charge" - a fine post from a fine ybig poster
|
||||
corkery
Ray Houghton Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 4932 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
Why could a Cliftonville fan give up European spots to go to Waterford on a Tuesday night. |
||||
'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
|
||||
deiseblue
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Apr 2012 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1021 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
It should also be pointed out that Rovers effectively went bust when they frauduently submitted 2003 accounts for the 2005 season in an effort to gain the required license , it actually got to the stage where they were pursued by a laundrette as they refused to pay their laundry bill. It should also be pointed out that Rovers were effectively homeless for 22 years & it was only through the good will of other LOI clubs ( including Bohs ) that Rovers survived. I do appreciate that Rovers as currently the 4th placed team in the country & the second highest placed in Dublin after Pats do have a major say in how the League should be run but they should also remember their own chequered financial & ground sharing history before taking the moral high ground. |
||||
planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
In 2005, Rovers kept Waterford up, courtesy of receiving an 8-point penalty for the above. The following year, Shels kept Waterford up, by having their licence overturned. In 2007, Waterford could have stayed up via the playoff system, lost it, and haven't been back since.
We live in 2012 now, and there are no free passes to the top division anymore. Rovers and Shels are back up. Waterford are welcome to play Rovers, Shels and everyone else on a weekly basis when they meet the required standard on the pitch. |
||||
deiseblue
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Apr 2012 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1021 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||
Of course you are right - we are where are . However , if the argument is that if you go bust then you go bust then Rovers & Shels should have summarily been thrown out of the league years ago - not an argument that I agree with as I hate to see clubs go under . Waterford are arguing that if they are condemned to spending next season in the 1st division then financially they may not be able to continue & as such are arguing that a 1 tier league maybe the way forward - a point worth considering perhaps - it should be pointed out that unlike Rovers & Shels the Blues have not flagrantly abused FAI rules & as such their argument should carry some weight & hopefully John Delaney will rember his roots ! Edited by deiseblue - 28 Aug 2012 at 6:13pm |
||||
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |