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They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side

A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side

A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 

Well they just signed Giroud who couldn't get a game this season at Arsenal. Cahill, Drinkwater, Barkley, Moses, Bakayoko, Luiz, Zapacosta, you're telling me any of those lads would get games at Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City or that any of those teams fans would have those lads over their own squad players?
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side

A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 

Well they just signed Giroud who couldn't get a game this season at Arsenal. Cahill, Drinkwater, Barkley, Moses, Bakayoko, Luiz, Zapacosta, you're telling me any of those lads would get games at Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City or that any of those teams fans would have those lads over their own squad players?

Chelsea actually need these players because they're tied to the Homegrown quota. And they're still under the limit which means their squad size is reduced.

It's a colossal f**k up in transfer strategy which has led to a very poor season.
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Full credit to Watford who were fully deserving of the win tonight, but without wishing to be disrespectful here, Chelsea really shouldn't be losing 4-1 to Watford and 3-0 to Bournemouth. It really is a testing time for the club and, if I'm being honest, I can't see Chelsea in the running for any trophy between now and May and the Champions League is looking very unlikely next season.
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side

A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 

Well they just signed Giroud who couldn't get a game this season at Arsenal. Cahill, Drinkwater, Barkley, Moses, Bakayoko, Luiz, Zapacosta, you're telling me any of those lads would get games at Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City or that any of those teams fans would have those lads over their own squad players?

Giroud is still a very good player tbf, Wenger under appreciated him and you would find many Arsenal fans who would agree.

I think you're under estimating the likes of Luiz and Moses especially, how in Gods name could you consider players like Mangala, Holding, Chambers, Lovren, Moreno, Klavan, Smalling etc to be better than them Confused

The simple fact is if Chelsea keep hold of their top players and bring in a couple of world class players in key areas they wouldn't be far off winning the PL.

Courtouis, Christensen, Kante, Pedro, Hazard, Azpee, Alonso, Morata (granted he's out of form) Willian, Cesc etc are all top players. 

Suddenly add 2 or 3 world class players into that group and you have a serious first 11.   
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side


A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 


Well they just signed Giroud who couldn't get a game this season at Arsenal. Cahill, Drinkwater, Barkley, Moses, Bakayoko, Luiz, Zapacosta, you're telling me any of those lads would get games at Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City or that any of those teams fans would have those lads over their own squad players?


A few of those players would get in the other top 5 sides.Chelsea have signed some duds but a big problem seems to be with Conte and the board. He won't be there much longer but then no one lasts there for long. The problems seem to have kicked in a bit quicker than usual this time.
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side

A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 

Well they just signed Giroud who couldn't get a game this season at Arsenal. Cahill, Drinkwater, Barkley, Moses, Bakayoko, Luiz, Zapacosta, you're telling me any of those lads would get games at Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City or that any of those teams fans would have those lads over their own squad players?

Chelsea actually need these players because they're tied to the Homegrown quota. And they're still under the limit which means their squad size is reduced.

It's a colossal f**k up in transfer strategy which has led to a very poor season.

Selling a lot of their younger players like Ake, Chalobah, Traure was very naive to say the least.

It would have given Conte far more room to rest key players in routine games you would think Chelsea would win. 
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Luiz and Moses, i still don't know what Moses actually does in a game except run up and down the pitch. As for Luiz, he's a walking liability and absolute headcase of a centre back who can't be trusted so i wouldn't think many top sides would want him either.

Chelsea do have good players, like all the top sides, but a few injuries and they look in really bad shape. 

You named 10 players above and said add 2 or 3, that would max make 13. There isn't a hope they could compete for the league title with 13 and only 13 great players.


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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

They're in an embarrassing situation and Hazard will no doubt leave in the summer.

Where to next for Chelsea? They need some serious investment in quality players. So many of their squad wouldn't get near another top 6 side

A bit of an over exaggeration there.

Chelsea have had seriously rotten luck this season with injuries which must be factored in and through no fault of their own naively went for quantity over genuine quality (at the highest level) in the transfer market.

Realistically, if Chelsea can bring in 2 or 3 top players they wouldn't be far off challenging for the title again.

 

Well they just signed Giroud who couldn't get a game this season at Arsenal. Cahill, Drinkwater, Barkley, Moses, Bakayoko, Luiz, Zapacosta, you're telling me any of those lads would get games at Liverpool, Arsenal, United and City or that any of those teams fans would have those lads over their own squad players?

Chelsea actually need these players because they're tied to the Homegrown quota. And they're still under the limit which means their squad size is reduced.

It's a colossal f**k up in transfer strategy which has led to a very poor season.

Selling a lot of their younger players like Ake, Chalobah, Traure was very naive to say the least.

It would have given Conte far more room to rest key players in routine games you would think Chelsea would win. 

Yep. And with Terry moving on and Diego Costa being in the country for 3 years we've just named 5 Homegrown players on top of our heads. 
And in return they sign Ross Barklery Danny Drinkwater and Giroud who counts towards. It speaks volumes really LOL
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Luiz and Moses, i still don't know what Moses actually does in a game except run up and down the pitch. As for Luiz, he's a walking liability and absolute headcase of a centre back who can't be trusted so i wouldn't think many top sides would want him either.

Chelsea do have good players, like all the top sides, but a few injuries and they look in really bad shape. 

You names 10 players above and said add 2 or 3, that would max make 13. There isn't a hope they could compete for the league title with 13 and only 13 great players.

Why couldn't they?

The likes of Rudiger, Cahill, Giroud etc would all be very good back up players.

Man City had a bench of Zinchenko, Toure (who's finished), Diaz, Adarabioyo, Bravo and Laporte the other day against Burnley.

To win a league you need 13/14 top players and good back up something Chelsea would have in abundance but when you've to depend on the likes Barkley, Drinkwater (a contradiction here because he's won a PL only 2 years ago) , Zappacosta etc week in week out that's when the problems start cropping up.

If Chelsea went and added 3 world class players how many games would these lads all realistically get?

Of course given that Chelsea signed a lot of foreign talent unproven in the PL a couple of these lads may very well improve after a year adapting to the PL, who knows?!


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Would expect Conte to be gone by the time they play next week. Whoever comes in has plenty of quality available to him, there are some outstanding players there. Also some players totally out of form also. Pedro looks like he's forgotten how to play. Cahill is a horror show. Luiz had the big fall out with Conte and that hasn't helped. Bakayoko hasn't settled at all.

I would agree with Conte in that for Chelsea to make a big push on 2 fronts this season, they needed to get 4/5 high quality players in last summer to kick on another level. Instead they signed some players that Conte didn't even want. In Barkleys case they tried to sign him last summer while he was laid up for months more. So something is seriously amiss in the background. You couldn't really blame Conte being like a bull over the transfer dealings there.

Courtois, Luiz, Azpilicueta, Christensen, Rudiger, Alonso, Kante, Hazard, Giroud are all quality players. If a new manager comes in in the next week, I'd expect Chelsea to kick on again.
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For a team that just won the league last season with over 90 points they have really messed up. The transfers since have been very poor with no long term strategy.
Conte won’t be there next summer so somebody new will have to rebuild.
Chelsea have the money so expect to see £300m+ worth of players coming in the summer.

Chelsea have some big games coming up against Man U and City so top 4 is not guaranteed.


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Them players can’t be that bad considering they won the league 9 months ago..
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