Trap's squad v Serbia

TheMightyQuinn wrote: I wonder if the players have a problem with Trap? From what I see in the media (which isnt necessarily a lot) trap would be hard to play for. calls players out in the media, appears to have terrible communication skills, seems to have a very poor opinion of irish footballers, and has constantly picked jobbers from division 1 and the championship over top flight players. if you were close with a player like kevin foley, stephen reid, or andy reid you might not have much good to say about him either...  i could see how some players that don't have the legacy in the irish shirt just might not want to turn up for him.  or maybe like the honey badger...he just doesn't give a $** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg

Edited by Kerrzy - 18 Aug 2012 at 6:04pm

I wonder if the players have a problem with Trap? From what I see in the media (which isnt necessarily a lot) trap would be hard to play for. calls players out in the media, appears to have terrible communication skills, seems to have a very poor opinion of irish footballers, and has constantly picked jobbers from division 1 and the championship over top flight players. if you were close with a player like kevin foley, stephen reid, or andy reid you might not have much good to say about him either... 

Hope Whelan gives him a firm boot in the nads. 

Edited by Garak - 18 Aug 2012 at 3:51pm

Gibson fit for Monday, in his excuse he was genuinely injured but wouldnt have been surprised if he pulled out anyway

Bigpodge posted in the Doyle thread but think it deserves to go on this thread.

Citizen wrote: a letter? he is owed the courtesy of at least a meeting. He should have been offered his old job back too.

He was owed nothing. His contract expired at the end of the Switzerland game. There was no reason for the FAI to deal with him after it. There was no point offering him his old job back either. Once you've reached the top coaching job in the country, everything afterwards is a step down.

Armenia beating slovkia and drawing estonia was the two single biggest contributing factors to qulaification. Anyone who is denyign this is kiddign themselves, it was and truly a lack-lustre qualifcation campaign topped off by a embarassingly display at the finals.    We only lost 1 game in kerrs (only proper) campaign. That was against a France team who went on to reach the subsequent world cup final. That is the only difference between Kerr and Trap imo. Kerr has every right to be bitter imo.

Kerr had a fine team to call upon for most of the WCQ series, had his first and last game at home, France and Switzerland trips out of the way after 3 games, and got us to within a goal of a playoff.

Trap took over a ragball team that finished 10 points off Euro qualification, lost one game in the WCQ's through a deflection, lost one game in the ECQ's through an own goal, was unbeaten away from home, and earned us a Seeded Playoff Spot, which we took advantage of.

One coach made the best of what he had, the other didn't. Lines are fine in International Football.

ah lads jaysis , kerrs exit has been gone over loads of times,

Eddie Rincon wrote: some revisionism on that Israel game here. My recollection was of an awful display by O shea letting the israelis back in. He threw his man into the air to help him connect with a header and then gave away a penalty. O brien sent off by an awful reff. We should still have won it by 2 or 3 and we should have won the first game in israel too.

Citizen wrote: FREEWHEELER wrote: Citizen wrote: FREEWHEELER wrote: Citizen wrote: El_nino wrote: gufct wrote: I must have missed all the brilliant football we played under Brian Kerr even though I was at 90% of the matches. His bitching last night was laughable and Ive lost all respect for him he is an embarrasment. Ya ever opportunity he got last night he was having a pop or throwing sly remarks in.  at one stage Killer looked pretty uncomfortable with what Kerr was saying. Nothing Kerr was saying was inaccurate though.   The way the FAI treated Brian Kerr was absoltuely disgusting. THis is a man who has done more good for Irish football as a whole than trap or Delaney ever will.   Hang on a sec.........Kerr didn't deserve a new contract.  He did an ok job after McCarthy left early in the 2004 EC campaign but the last game in Switzerland gave an indication of what was to come in the 2006 WC campaign.  We were listless, directionless and went out with a whimper.  Simiilarly against the Swiss and French at home in 2 massive games in the 2006 campaign, we didn't score in those 2 games (or the aforementioned 2004 Swiss game).  He was out of his depth by then and he had to go at that stage, the players were sick of his methods and quite frankly so were the fans.   Yeah he did a great job with the underage set up but that was then..........his continual bitter sniping since then is extremely childish and irritating, he should be better than that sorta nonsense. we you watching the games against Russia and Slovakia?   Armenia beating slovkia and drawing estonia was the two single biggest contributing factors to qulaification. Anyone who is denyign this is kiddign themselves, it was and truly a lack-lustre qualifcation campaign topped off by a embarassingly display at the finals.    We only lost 1 game in kerrs (only proper) campaign. That was against a France team who went on to reach the subsequent world cup final. That is the only difference between Kerr and Trap imo. Both failed spectacularly at home against rival opposition. We were jsut as lacklustre agaisnt the Slovaks at hiome under trap as we were against the swiss under kerr, both were deemed must win games before hand.   Kerr has every right to be bitter imo.   You may recall Citz that I slated Trap in both the Russia/Slovak home games, particularly the 2nd one, but you stated that Kerr was treated disgracefully by the FAI, he wasn't!   Remember we were 2-0 up and murdering Israel at home?  Robbie got injured and instead of bringing on a straight swop up top, he moved  Duff to centre forward, when Duff had been running RIOT down the left in helping us go 2-0 up.  He brought on Kavanagh and the whole balance of the team suffered.  Result?  We drew 2-2, that was the game for me Kerr hadn't got what it took at that level.   Who cares who has the better home/away record?  Trap got us to Poland and a WC play off, Kerr didn't.  6 years of bitterness at this stage Citz, it gets boring after a short while. do you not think a man whose acheivements with our underage teams are second to none, including two trophys, deserves better that a letter saying his contract is not being renewed and to drop his company car and laptop back asap. He didnt derserve to have his contract renewed but, the manner in which they treated his dismissal was appalling.