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Catman 
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 Topic: Which team would win.......Posted: 05 Jul 2012 at 1:58pm |
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What exactly do they hold though? the ball? hold out the opposition? They hold their mickeys is what they do while we get steam-rolled in the middle of the park in every game regardless of the opposition
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The sequence now is, should he miss this, and Ireland's next penalty is scored, then the match and the progress are Ireland's....Timofte against Bonner.. |
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tetsujin1979
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Ireland4ever
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Posted: 05 Jul 2012 at 1:01pm |
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So did Hoolahan.
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Hoolahan also got dropped a few times as he only started 25 games of a possible 36.
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davekoolhill
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I disagree, I think Wilson got voted Stokes best player in the season just gone. He played almost all their games. Whelan got dropped from time to time during the season. Hoolahan was probably one of the most effective players for Norwich in the Premier League. He was recently inducted into Norwich's Hall of Fame. He wore the captain's armband loads of times throughout the season. He also made plenty of assists and scored goals, (which I understand Whelan is more defensive, so I can't really use that). I agree regarding Clark and Duffy. Clark picked up a cruciate injury which kept him out for a few month's. Duffy was very unlucky that Moyes didn't show more faith in him. |
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tetsujin1979
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trapnoclue
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no we wouldnt be calling for whelan he is muck, the only thing he does is chew gum.
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Shedite
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Okay, lets phrase it another way,
If Whelan had been one of those snubbed by Trap, would we be calling for his inclusion? Probably, given that his PL form has been as good as and as impressive as the likes of Hoolihan, Clarke, Duffy, Wilson. The grass is always greener on the other side! |
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Posted: 05 Jul 2012 at 8:38am |
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Tough question. The obvious answer is some sort of mixture of the two. The fans team would be on the front foot for most of the game, but Traps team would probably get a 1-1 draw.
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Stoked Up
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Let's have a look at rainpaulos' defence.
Westwood Kelly........Clark..Duffy.....Wilson... Westwood - hasn't let us down, but it's looking likely that he will have to go back to championship level to play regular club football. Kelly - maybe, but tbh his club form and even when he 's played for us, means he's likely to be little better than JOS. Alternatives, Foley/Coleman? Clark - it's hard to say if he could shine there as he's been shunted about so much at Villa. It looks more likely he's developing into a decent midfielder. Duffy - played just 3 premier league games for Everton last season. Yes, he's got great potential and hopefully one for the future. We need to see more of him. Hard to see either of them dislodging Sledge or Dunne. Alternatives of O'Dea and Delaney don't really inspire either. Wilson - I wonder how many here have actually ever see him play? He was average all season for Stoke and only played there because he was the best that they had for the position. Stoke are actively looking for a recognised LB. He's marginally better than Ward at LB, that's all. That said, he's got plenty to offer in other areas of the pitch too and he should be in the squad. Alternatives? We could really do with Cunningham making a breakthrough this season or as some have suggested, switching Duff to LB.
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i take these better players would be : hoolahan (who has spent all bar one season outside top flight football, so a championship player/league 1 player for most of his career, like andrews) mccarthy (who was not available) gibson (could be a better option but has had some very mediocre days in a green shirt) "ireland" (used to play for us, but then didnt want to, but did really, at least his bird mentioned at the hairdressers, and the boss must go round and throw pebbles at his window and serenade him first) just an observation, maybe you had some other names ?  |
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trapnoclue
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whelan is a nothing midfielder, he cant/wont tackle,pass, shoot, stop the opposition he does nothing, so stoked up when are you goin to put your blind loyalty to him aside and admit he is useless?
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Stoked Up
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Where does Whelan sit in the scheme of logic? I see many want him gone and bemoan that Trap wont play form players. Let's see - he played 41 games last season for his EPL club. http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/PlayerDetails?playerID=26767&seasonID=141 But of course many of you want to make an exception here. Did Whelan have a good tournament? Not at all, but we are still searching for an aggressive holding CM to replace him. Even it Trap wasn't in charge, Whelan's fine form for his club would likely see him play, whoever was managing Ireland. I genuinely hope McCarthy's stock can keep on rising or perhaps Clark or Wilson can force their way in, otherwise we are likely to still see Whelan in an Irish jersey for some time to come. When are some of you going to understand this fundamental point. The reason we play with *two holding CM's is because our defence is poor and there's little in the way of replacements that are much better than the quartet who played in Poland. The very pragmatism of this is what gave us the unlikely away victories, which brought us to second place in the last two qualifying campaigns. * I'm all for some more attacking players in our lineup ala rainpaulo's OP here, but untill we find better defenders, I'm afraid this paucity is likely to continue. Edited by Stoked Up - 04 Jul 2012 at 4:24pm |
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trapnoclue
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shedite, trap is not picking b rate premiership players you are right there, he is picking b rate championship players instead of them.
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NewrycityonTour
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Posted: 04 Jul 2012 at 11:19am |
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Forgot about that. |
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Oh angry nordies, we used to be British but were O'Irish now.
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t_rAndy
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I wouldn't be shouting from the roof tops to get Andrews dropped. I think he does a good job. But I think if we want to become a team that is composed on the ball then we need to phase Andrews out to a squad player and replace him in the first XI with the likes of Gibson, McCarthy, maybe Mr. Ireland.
He still has a lot to give, but not as a main man in my opinion. Also agree about McCann. I think we need to get him into the squad ASAP.
Andrews is out of the first game by the way (suspended)
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NewrycityonTour
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1. Us Newry lads are fine, so long as your nice back to us.
2. For his performances in the Euros he deserves a shot in the first game at least, unless someone else is on superb form. Andrews wouldn't be my pick at all but Im a believer that form should come into it. Obviously if hes terrible in the first few games of the season that rules him out but IMO he deserves to keep his place. I agree with Whelan though, but thankfully we have McCarthy as a replacement for one of them and Id love to see Chris McCann getting a chance, back from 2 bad injury wrecked years and captained Burnley last year. With him about to make the step to the Premier league aswell with Swansea that can only be good for us.
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Oh angry nordies, we used to be British but were O'Irish now.
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